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MasterSeedy
4 years agoSeasoned Ace
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It was. And I'm not concerned about my ability to spend GET2, but I am concerned about the ability of people who are at a stage of the game where they should be going after GLs, but aren't as free as I am to use them (maybe they still need one of the cap ships, or maybe they're not getting the g12 needs met without spending GET2, whatever).
it's still useful to measure passive GET income vs. GL requirements. It's a measuring stick to be used to judge what CG is asking. I don't mean to literally say that people can't get Kyros any other way or that by definition the Kyros will take 14 months to acquire.
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
They may well. I'm one of the 50 Shards of KAM streamers, so if we start getting consistent success with BB, I'll be among the first to know it. But since you can get consistent 90% success rates with 501st + Shaak who require many fewer Kyros and when relic'd help make you eligible for GLOW, it's hard (for me) to see that happening.
Imagine 2 choices:
1) 2000ish Kyros for GLOW + a 90% chance to beat KAM and earn shards of a toon who synergizes with GLOW
or
2) 3500ish Kyros for LV + a 100% chance to beat KAM and earn shards of a toon who can't possibly synergize with LV
Even if BB + Omega or BB + someone becomes unbeatable in KAM, the fact that you just can't get more than a 10% success rate boost combined with the fact that one path makes KAM exceptionally useful and the other path makes KAM much less so, the logic doesn't seem compelling.
Now, where it might be compelling is among people who aren't willing to stream or to watch a large number of runs to learn the strategies necessary to adapt to different KAM runs.
If you're a loner with no good strategy and your success rate is (generously) 30%, then BB + Omega turns out to have a success rate of 100%, someone who doesn't want to stream or learn strategy might find a lot of value in that.
The game is subjective, and different people have fun in different ways. I know that there are people who stubbornly try the KAM mission month after month with a low success rate, but who don't bother using resources like 50SoK or their guild streamer. Statistically some of them might find BB tempting for the 100% success rate with no special strategy other than whatever is normal for that squad against any enemy, assuming the success rate really is very high for those people.
On the whole, though, BB vs. 1 GL is not a contest. CG has made BB a team that only people who are already finished with all the other GLs could find worth the Kyro/relic investment. You have to find people who don't care that they're not objectively worth the investment to find folks willing to relic them while they still have other GLs available to pursue.
@MasterSeedy I thought your work up was on free Kyros, so your income could be higher than that with farming and other purchases like GET and GAC tokens.
It was. And I'm not concerned about my ability to spend GET2, but I am concerned about the ability of people who are at a stage of the game where they should be going after GLs, but aren't as free as I am to use them (maybe they still need one of the cap ships, or maybe they're not getting the g12 needs met without spending GET2, whatever).
it's still useful to measure passive GET income vs. GL requirements. It's a measuring stick to be used to judge what CG is asking. I don't mean to literally say that people can't get Kyros any other way or that by definition the Kyros will take 14 months to acquire.
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Also with the changes to allow BB to take over and hopefully be more successful in LSGeo TBand KAM mission, they may be worth more investment than you give then credit for, at least to some.
They may well. I'm one of the 50 Shards of KAM streamers, so if we start getting consistent success with BB, I'll be among the first to know it. But since you can get consistent 90% success rates with 501st + Shaak who require many fewer Kyros and when relic'd help make you eligible for GLOW, it's hard (for me) to see that happening.
Imagine 2 choices:
1) 2000ish Kyros for GLOW + a 90% chance to beat KAM and earn shards of a toon who synergizes with GLOW
or
2) 3500ish Kyros for LV + a 100% chance to beat KAM and earn shards of a toon who can't possibly synergize with LV
Even if BB + Omega or BB + someone becomes unbeatable in KAM, the fact that you just can't get more than a 10% success rate boost combined with the fact that one path makes KAM exceptionally useful and the other path makes KAM much less so, the logic doesn't seem compelling.
Now, where it might be compelling is among people who aren't willing to stream or to watch a large number of runs to learn the strategies necessary to adapt to different KAM runs.
If you're a loner with no good strategy and your success rate is (generously) 30%, then BB + Omega turns out to have a success rate of 100%, someone who doesn't want to stream or learn strategy might find a lot of value in that.
The game is subjective, and different people have fun in different ways. I know that there are people who stubbornly try the KAM mission month after month with a low success rate, but who don't bother using resources like 50SoK or their guild streamer. Statistically some of them might find BB tempting for the 100% success rate with no special strategy other than whatever is normal for that squad against any enemy, assuming the success rate really is very high for those people.
On the whole, though, BB vs. 1 GL is not a contest. CG has made BB a team that only people who are already finished with all the other GLs could find worth the Kyro/relic investment. You have to find people who don't care that they're not objectively worth the investment to find folks willing to relic them while they still have other GLs available to pursue.
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