[MEGA] State of the Galaxy: November 2021

"TooOldForThis;c-2318310" wrote:

"Nauros;c-2318307" wrote:
Ok, that's a whole lot to digest...
There seem to be two goals going on, of course unstated in the official announcement. The first one is sustainability - squad arena basically enforces power creep, which can only go so far before the whole thing topples. I can fully get behind that, and it seems they plan to keep the game around for a while, for better or worse.
The other goal is to keep the crystal income more stratified. Shard chats enabled a lot of people to get good rewards, and that's not the CG way. Now they have tighter control over how many crystals go among the players.
The elephant in the room, of course, is 3v3. Now, the crystal income is partially tied to a mode the game wasn't designed for and we have no way to practice. Very bad move.
Overall, I guess it depends on how much will the crystal income actually be nerfed and whether or not the new matchmaking works as intended. I don't have high hopes, but I don't condemn it right away either.

The “elephant in the room” is in-game currency(crystals). These changes will dramatically reduce the amount of crystals given out to the player base as a whole. They assume that will force the player base to spend more money to acquire crystals. This is about milking every last dollar out of what’s left of the player base, everything else is eye wash.

Yep, that is indeed the elephant in the room. CG addresses it, with unconvincing claims, and then tries to confuse people with charts.

For good players who weren't really competitive in the meta, they will possibly see an improvement in crystal income. Players who were competitive in the meta, for the most part (not the player base as a whole perhaps, but specifically these players who were the most competitive and getting crystals from squad arena, which is what CG was worried about) crystal income is almost guaranteed to go down if GAC seasons aren't running back-to-back 24/7.

Conquest changes and Executor shard release method indicate that CG was very interested in squeezing the crystal economy, requiring more crystal vault purchases or taking away crystals otherwise spent on gear (thus increasing relic packs).

So this is an expected change.

"DK_Raid_Violator;c-2318377" wrote:
As stated above (directly or not): please make an auto-join feature for gac. And if not, then for the love of God, DON'T hide the join button behind pack commercials!

This is a massive problem, I would join everything I could even if I just let it auto deploy and don't hit GAC anymore (such a sh1t game mode), TW and GAC missed for a "£99.99 pack I will never buy" is just frustrating.

"dgree;c-2318384" wrote:

"TooOldForThis;c-2318310" wrote:

"Nauros;c-2318307" wrote:
Ok, that's a whole lot to digest...
There seem to be two goals going on, of course unstated in the official announcement. The first one is sustainability - squad arena basically enforces power creep, which can only go so far before the whole thing topples. I can fully get behind that, and it seems they plan to keep the game around for a while, for better or worse.
The other goal is to keep the crystal income more stratified. Shard chats enabled a lot of people to get good rewards, and that's not the CG way. Now they have tighter control over how many crystals go among the players.
The elephant in the room, of course, is 3v3. Now, the crystal income is partially tied to a mode the game wasn't designed for and we have no way to practice. Very bad move.
Overall, I guess it depends on how much will the crystal income actually be nerfed and whether or not the new matchmaking works as intended. I don't have high hopes, but I don't condemn it right away either.

The “elephant in the room” is in-game currency(crystals). These changes will dramatically reduce the amount of crystals given out to the player base as a whole. They assume that will force the player base to spend more money to acquire crystals. This is about milking every last dollar out of what’s left of the player base, everything else is eye wash.

Yep, that is indeed the elephant in the room. CG addresses it, with unconvincing claims, and then tries to confuse people with charts.

For good players who weren't really competitive in the meta, they will possibly see an improvement in crystal income. Players who were competitive in the meta, for the most part (not the player base as a whole perhaps, but specifically these players who were the most competitive and getting crystals from squad arena, which is what CG was worried about) crystal income is almost guaranteed to go down if GAC seasons aren't running back-to-back 24/7.

Conquest changes and Executor shard release method indicate that CG was very interested in squeezing the crystal economy, requiring more crystal vault purchases or taking away crystals otherwise spent on gear (thus increasing relic packs).

So this is an expected change.

You'll get daily crystal rewards from GAC even during the off week, which it says in the SotG

"LordDirt;c-2318002" wrote:
So with no meta what is there to chase? Now I can collect at mu own pace and just play the game for free. How does this help CG?

Because now every new character will be "meta". Just look at the new Maquees theive been releasing for example. Theyre not needed for Squad Arena, but for GA youre going to have a big advantage if you have them. The days of chasing one team is over, and now we have to chase all of them.

"Hornist;c-2318264" wrote:

"TooOldForThis;c-2318262" wrote:

"KarateApina;c-2318258" wrote:
I am carefully optimistic. Gac has been more interesting for me even with crap rewards. Arena (I get 1st every day), is a chore and very boring.
Best thing about Gac is that you are not forced to do your battles in strict time schedule. In gac you have all day. This is QOL.

Gettng max crystals will be harder from now on. They are truly a reward.

Can we ban devs having alt accounts to post with in the forums? It’s either that or there’s a large amount of people who don’t understand how numbers work. This is a clear attack on the player base, nothing else.

Did you actually read the post or do any math or anything? the vast majority of people stand to get more crystals from this. It will adversely affect some people, but not most. Then there's the fact that instead of doing 1-5 SA battles every day, you're doing placements and up to 13 battles every other day nine times a month. For those that have to use 4 or 5 SA attacks a day to climb, there will actually be FEWER battles on average.

Crystals for all, everyone benefits? You know it's a problem when a new system is sold as a communist system.

Currently it's 5 battles for a guaranteed 500 crystals daily, in a 35-day season gives 17,500 crystals. 100 crystals per battle. Keyword is "guaranteed".

How many people can maintain kyber consistently over let's say a year? Guarantee 3-0 every time? Have you done that math? Let's see if it's as many as the number who can consistently get 1st in arena every day.

"Geshtianna;c-2318392" wrote:

"Hornist;c-2318264" wrote:

"TooOldForThis;c-2318262" wrote:

"KarateApina;c-2318258" wrote:
I am carefully optimistic. Gac has been more interesting for me even with crap rewards. Arena (I get 1st every day), is a chore and very boring.
Best thing about Gac is that you are not forced to do your battles in strict time schedule. In gac you have all day. This is QOL.

Gettng max crystals will be harder from now on. They are truly a reward.

Can we ban devs having alt accounts to post with in the forums? It’s either that or there’s a large amount of people who don’t understand how numbers work. This is a clear attack on the player base, nothing else.

Did you actually read the post or do any math or anything? the vast majority of people stand to get more crystals from this. It will adversely affect some people, but not most. Then there's the fact that instead of doing 1-5 SA battles every day, you're doing placements and up to 13 battles every other day nine times a month. For those that have to use 4 or 5 SA attacks a day to climb, there will actually be FEWER battles on average.

Crystals for all, everyone benefits? You know it's a problem when a new system is sold as a communist system.

Currently it's 5 battles for a guaranteed 500 crystals daily, in a 35-day season gives 17,500 crystals. 100 crystals per battle. Keyword is "guaranteed".

How many people can maintain kyber consistently over let's say a year? Guarantee 3-0 every time? Have you done that math? Let's see if it's as many as the number who can consistently get 1st in arena every day.

Because everyone is guaranteed 500 crystals per day, right?

"ComandanteJ;c-2318086" wrote:
This should be a game for entertainment and having to play GAC with such intensity will cause a lot of stress, this is not the way. If what you wanted is to give more importance to the GAC you should have increased the rewards to promote its game. Part of the essence of SWGOH has died today.

"SiuanPamic;c-2318089" wrote:

"ComandanteJ;c-2318086" wrote:
This should be a game for entertainment and having to play GAC with such intensity will cause a lot of stress, this is not the way. If what you wanted is to give more importance to the GAC you should have increased the rewards to promote its game. Part of the essence of SWGOH has died today.

So basically you’re looking for quick meaningless rewards?

If youre looking for a full time job then go get one, stop looking for it in a mobile game

How many people can maintain kyber consistently over let's say a year? Guarantee 3-0 every time? Have you done that math? Let's see if it's as many as the number who can consistently get 1st in arena every day.

This seems a common misunderstanding of how it is proposed to work. Only 10% of the people in Kyber get relegated (those in Kyber div 5) , and only once per 5 weeks at the end of the season. 10% of those in Aurodium will get promoted at the same time. So you won't need to win 3-0 or even close to that. I'd day even 3-9 will keep you in Kyber. The old way of making Kyber is gone , it's not about banners in a 5 week season, it starts with your gp then is about wins and losses only over each and every season going forward. The main issue is lower GP accounts (say 4m) have to climb a long way to reach Kyber in the first place and can only get promoted once a season. There will be a lot of big GP accts in Kyber that get those rewards that dont climb to the top of arena , and a lot of those who climb in newer arena shards that may never make Kyber. It's impossible without access to CGs data to know if it's overall more or less crystals in total for all players.

Love this. Really do. I do have two concerns.

Fleet arena isn't affected. What this will become though is an arena they can monetize for awhile. Executrix is an example. Squad arena used to be a new meta every six months to generate revenue. Fleet arena will replace that.

Cheaters. Known fact people have, can and will cheat in GAC and it seems that CG hasn't truly been overly keen on banning these players, if they are spenders. With that being said if I have to choose between cheaters or shard chat mafias, I pick cheaters.

Match making does seem like it will sort itself out as we progress.

It does make sense to award crystals based upon how we utilize a large portion of our roster and not just five toons.

Really excited!!

"GRANDOLA;c-2318123" wrote:

"SiuanPamic;c-2318097" wrote:

"GRANDOLA;c-2318094" wrote:

So basically you’re looking for quick meaningless rewards?

They're looking to continue with the game the way its been for the last 6 years without penalty. You seem to want to play GAC and you could do that fine without this chane, they want to not be penalised for having fun in the game the way they played it for years.

Lol absolutely ridiculous thinking. I’ve been playing since day one. If it was the same game as day one, I highly doubt anyone complaining would still be playing.

Them adding content is nice. Them removing pretty much a full game mode that's been in since day 1 is a lot less so. There is no incentive to play squad arena anymore beyond the daily requirements. Its gone as a mode.

They could have improved GAC but I don't see removing the squad arena usefulness just to force people to play GAC as useful or innovation. They didn't make GAC better, they made you ignoring it a punishment.

"SiuanPamic;c-2318146" wrote:

"MasterSeedy;c-2318141" wrote:
@SiuanPamic

I think skill is more important than wallet and I’m not FTP

What are you even talking about? No one mentioned wallets (or even money) except you.

The only people who stand to lose daily crystals are the ones who have no skill.

Or the ones without 8 million + in GP