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- SnuggeSnuggles3 years agoSeasoned AceWow my final match this GAC was out of this world. My opponent really maxed out the datacrons and he put 5 GLs on defense plus starkiller and maxed out malgus etc. I have no problem with losing but it has to be fun to play. This is not fun. There’s no feeling of engagement left in GAC if this is what I have to look forward to from now on. Before this I was a kyber 1 player, now I don’t I even think I have the motivation to fight to stay in kyber 2.
- Whatelse733 years agoSeasoned AceIf it hasn't been said enough, datacrons suck and you need to turn them down from 45,000 to 11. Seriously. And don't wait until you've gathered 18 months of data to figure that out please. It should be enough to see by now how significantly they are impacting the game.
Datacrons are garbage that turn our rosters into worthless garbage because it's all meaningless. No more theorycrafting, just "what datacrons are involved?" How much more 'input' do you need? How many more months of this rubbish because of someone's extreme sports in swgoh idea?
The demotivation level to play, along with spend on the game is shrinking daily. - It's now grand stalemate. Everyone puts their gls and datacrons on D and you're lucky to clear 1 zone. T
This is more fun? "littleMAC77;c-2374608" wrote:
"striker_Jakkuzas;c-2374599" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2366748" wrote:
Why ask questions when you aren't going to read what they say?
Did you read what you quoted? Have you looked at other launches?
In the past they have included videos for a game update of this size. CG has had staff on various content creators streams to address questions. CG has given more details about changes. This generic level of information with no effort to reach out to the community shows CG's lack of caring about the community response. If the answers provided were so clear, how come they had to open up a Q&A about them after.
My point was, and still is, that they showed no effort to inform the community before the launch. Did they have some effort after a poor reception by the community? Maybe. But overall this was a clear lack of effort to communicate with the users.
They wrote over 2800 words about datacrons before launch, in a very long Road Ahead post about them. Its not their fault you made no effort to be informed
It's just their fault that they made the game worse- DarmanSkirata703 years agoRising Adventurer
"Ultra;c-2374604" wrote:
"Recurve;c-2374560" wrote:
Using 3 rerolls to get the EXACT same results is utterly terrible and stupid. If I am rerolling then give me different options ffs
but you do get different options and a choice to keep the same one or different ones.......
and these options are weighted. Don't forget that little gem. So the really good option you want, you aren't likely to get. Buried in the Q&A, its complete BS. - DarmanSkirata703 years agoRising Adventurer
"striker_Jakkuzas;c-2374693" wrote:
"littleMAC77;c-2374608" wrote:
We still don't know if the re-rolls have odds behind them.
We do know for the mechanics (Levels 3, 6, 9). They admitted they were weighted in the Q&A. Nobody read it.
So from that, assume the best mechanics will not drop as often as the crap ones.
Once you are on that page, its a slippery slope on what else is weighted in this game.....
Shard drops, gear drops etc pretty much anything could fall under the guise of server side weighting logic. - DarmanSkirata703 years agoRising Adventurer
"MaruMaru;c-2375750" wrote:
"Darman_Skirata;c-2375738" wrote:
We still don't know if the re-rolls have odds behind them.
We do know for the mechanics (Levels 3, 6, 9). They admitted they were weighted in the Q&A. Nobody read it.
So from that, assume the best mechanics will not drop as often as the crap ones.
Once you are on that page, its a slippery slope on what else is weighted in this game.....
Shard drops, gear drops etc pretty much anything could fall under the guise of server side weighting logic.
As self stated, this is a slippery slope argument. No, once you know that one thing is weighted, it doesn't automatically mean anything else is weighted, especially given that those other things are well sampled by community to show no such thing.
If you believe that only Datacrons are weighted, I think you are providing the benefit of the doubt where it not earned, nor deserved. I'm not that gullible. The only reason probabilities were listed on packs was it was a legal requirement. Datacrons have people spending in game resources and money for those resources. Where are the probabilities for Datacrons? Where is a response from CG, clearly stating the "odds" for each different aspect of the game? Blind trust is something nobody should employ. - _1EgoSlayer3 years agoNew Veteran
"MaruMaru;c-2375859" wrote:
"Darman_Skirata;c-2375831" wrote:
"MaruMaru;c-2375750" wrote:
"Darman_Skirata;c-2375738" wrote:
We still don't know if the re-rolls have odds behind them.
We do know for the mechanics (Levels 3, 6, 9). They admitted they were weighted in the Q&A. Nobody read it.
So from that, assume the best mechanics will not drop as often as the crap ones.
Once you are on that page, its a slippery slope on what else is weighted in this game.....
Shard drops, gear drops etc pretty much anything could fall under the guise of server side weighting logic.
As self stated, this is a slippery slope argument. No, once you know that one thing is weighted, it doesn't automatically mean anything else is weighted, especially given that those other things are well sampled by community to show no such thing.
If you believe that only Datacrons are weighted, I think you are providing the benefit of the doubt where it not earned, nor deserved. I'm not that gullible. The only reason probabilities were listed on packs was it was a legal requirement. Datacrons have people spending in game resources and money for those resources. Where are the probabilities for Datacrons? Where is a response from CG, clearly stating the "odds" for each different aspect of the game? Blind trust is something nobody should employ.
I don't believe anything in particular. I work on evidence and evidence collected by the community in incredibly large samples is there, just waiting for you to search for it instead of preemptively believing something ;)
And it's well documented that every drop has a weighted percentage of appearing, so I'm not sure what you're arguing. - _1EgoSlayer3 years agoNew Veteran
"MaruMaru;c-2375871" wrote:
"EgoSlayer;c-2375864" wrote:
"MaruMaru;c-2375859" wrote:
"Darman_Skirata;c-2375831" wrote:
"MaruMaru;c-2375750" wrote:
"Darman_Skirata;c-2375738" wrote:
We still don't know if the re-rolls have odds behind them.
We do know for the mechanics (Levels 3, 6, 9). They admitted they were weighted in the Q&A. Nobody read it.
So from that, assume the best mechanics will not drop as often as the crap ones.
Once you are on that page, its a slippery slope on what else is weighted in this game.....
Shard drops, gear drops etc pretty much anything could fall under the guise of server side weighting logic.
As self stated, this is a slippery slope argument. No, once you know that one thing is weighted, it doesn't automatically mean anything else is weighted, especially given that those other things are well sampled by community to show no such thing.
If you believe that only Datacrons are weighted, I think you are providing the benefit of the doubt where it not earned, nor deserved. I'm not that gullible. The only reason probabilities were listed on packs was it was a legal requirement. Datacrons have people spending in game resources and money for those resources. Where are the probabilities for Datacrons? Where is a response from CG, clearly stating the "odds" for each different aspect of the game? Blind trust is something nobody should employ.
I don't believe anything in particular. I work on evidence and evidence collected by the community in incredibly large samples is there, just waiting for you to search for it instead of preemptively believing something ;)
And it's well documented that every drop has a weighted percentage of appearing, so I'm not sure what you're arguing.
Not sure what you mean by weighted. Gear/shards drops are a flat percentage. Weighted means out of numerous options, some of them would have different percentages. Like in mods speed rolling less than other stats. Or in other cases weighted can mean the rates dynamically change depending on where you are. Do you think things like that are happening?
Only other that I know that's weighted is value intervals of the mods. i.e. +3,+4,+5,+6 speed has different chances of rolling.
Weighted means not equal chances. All the drops are weighted by class of item, shards, gear types, etc. They are not individually weighted (e.g. Admiral Raddus shards drop at the same rate as 50R-T, but are at a different rate than the gear types on their nodes), except in packs. - SnuggeSnuggles3 years agoSeasoned AceOk so this was a fun datacon combo, JMK + galactic republic team puts stun on your team every move they make, in 3v3. I’m not allowed to do anything because of permastun even when I use my own JMK to dispel the stun it’s immediately applied back. Great gameplay experience. Thanks CG for ruining the game completely, hope you feel great pride of that work ethic.
Edit: also the datacon let’s the team ignore protection. I thought this was a huge thing for you guys that defense was so important and that’s why you nerfed darth Vader, wat etc. or is this just not true anymore? Could we get our old Vader back then? Does anyone at CG actually play the game?
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