Mods Challenges update please

Grey mods are good. They have a better chance at becoming great more so then others.
But it’s a garbage move to have put 3-4 dot mods in 3* challenge. Everything in that should be 5dot. Just a cheap way to slow us down and waste our resources.

I agree with dropping the 3 star mods from the highest challenge tiers, same with the 4 star mods. However, the quality should remain Grey through Gold as before.

"Darth_Etern4l;c-2333487" wrote:

"Pan2218;c-2333396" wrote:

"Darth_Etern4l;c-2333386" wrote:
No.

By starting giving out better mods, it inflates the value of hard earned good mods of old players.

There is a mega crunch for mods, 6 dot & 6 dot plus mats. Those Grey ones that the Challenges put out are garbage & like another person said the 3 & 4 dot mods should be removed from the final 3* challenge.
I love mods & work diligently on them, but the GL powercrunch & all of these new toons require mods & good ones. We need an updated system at higher GP levels to balance our rosters.

Why do your toons need better mods? To outspeed the enemy?
Because if thats the goal, increasing good mod drops will not get you any closer to that, since your opponents will also be faster.
Easing mod farming doesn't give you an advantage. All it does is devalue your current mods.

All mod farming devalues your current mods.

"Arctrooper;c-2333457" wrote:

"Sewpot;c-2333453" wrote:
Grey mods are good. They have a better chance at becoming great more so then others.

Can you please explain this more? I never considered this because the grey mods don't get any secondary stats upgraded like higher tier mods when taking to 15. So, it would seem the higher tier mods that start with one or more "good" secondary stat that has a chance of being upgraded would have a greater chance of being great than a grey mod. Unless there is something that I am missing about grey mods. Honestly, I have ignored them, but maybe I shouldn't. Thanks.

It’s not that the mods themselves are better it’s that you will get more of ones that might possibly be good. It’s a balance between what might end up being a top mod/getting the mats you need to upgrade it to 5a and just running more mod challenges to get more mods.

The following is my mod upgrade rule of thumb. Exception being arrow mod which should just be speed primary. Although it is a good idea to also pick up an accuracy set of 5 arrow mods for feats(rarely used)

For everything else.

(This bit saves credits)
For 5e don’t upgrade to 15. Upgrade to 12 to see all stats. If one stat is (1)5 speed keep it. Sell the rest.
For 5d upgrade to 9 if one stat is (1)5 speed upgrade to 15. Sell the rest.
For 5c upgrade to 6 if one stat is (1)5 speed upgrade to 15. Sell the rest.
For 5b upgrade to 3 if one stat is (1)4 or (1)5 speed upgrade to 15. Sell the rest.
For 5a upgrade to 15. Keep these for lesser teams until you have large stock of ‘good’ mods.

For slice from 5e to 5d you want (1)5 speed. Sell the rest.
To slice 5d to 5c you want either (1)5, (2)10 or (2)11 speed. Sell the rest.
From 5c to 5b you want (2)10-11,(3)15-17 speed. Keep the rest until large stock then sell.
From 5b to 5a you want (2)10-11,(3)15-17,(4)19-23 speed. Keep the rest until you sold off extras from 5c.
For 5a to 6e you want (3)15-17,(4)19-23,(5)20-29 speed.
For 6e to 6d you want (3)16-18, (4)20-24,(5)25-30 speed.
For 6d to 6c you want (3)16-18,(4)20-24,(5)25-30 speed.
For 6c to 6b you want (4)20-24,(5)25-30 speed.
For 6b to 6a you want (4)20-24,(5)25-30 speed.

The purpose of this is to get as many (5)25+ speed mods as possible. Everything else is a placeholder until you do. Although chances are you will never get to the point of only using only god mods as you need 110 sets for GAC. Eventually though as you get more mods with high speed phase out the ones that didn’t rate upgrading to next tier.

Just remember this is all a balance of the credit you have to spend upgrading and the energy spent get mats to upgrade vs just grabbing more mods. Then using your limited tier 6 mod upgrade mats on ones that have best chance of becoming (5)25+ speed.

Thought I'd drop in and let you know that I have brought up removal of 3 and 4 dot mods from higher tier game modes as well as a list of other mod-related QoL suggestions I've seen floating around in the player community. It might take a while, but it's something Crumb and I will continue to bring up in our discussions with the devs.

"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2333705" wrote:
Thought I'd drop in and let you know that I have brought up removal of 3 and 4 dot mods from higher tier game modes as well as a list of other mod-related QoL suggestions I've seen floating around in the player community. It might take a while, but it's something Crumb and I will continue to bring up in our discussions with the devs.

That is great, thank you Doja. I really hope that devs will listen to you. Would be nice if they don't take so long for that kind of decisions. Sometimes it feels like they postpone such goodies until they need to distract from some other (not so nice) changes.

"Ravens1113;c-2333722" wrote:

"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2333705" wrote:
Thought I'd drop in and let you know that I have brought up removal of 3 and 4 dot mods from higher tier game modes as well as a list of other mod-related QoL suggestions I've seen floating around in the player community. It might take a while, but it's something Crumb and I will continue to bring up in our discussions with the devs.

Happy to hear that you guys are still pushing hard for the community. Beyond disappointing that no matter how much you and crumb push, the devs that make the ultimate decision still think they know what’s best for the community and choose to ignore your ideas and our requests.

They're typically really receptive. They want to make a great game that players enjoy. Sometimes it's about finding the right time. The schedule is planned out a long time in advance and trying to sandwich things in can be tricky. Especially when unforeseen issues need to be triaged, etc.

It's a process and I think we'll be able to get some good things done from a QoL standpoint this year.

Hire more devs

"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2333705" wrote:
Thought I'd drop in and let you know that I have brought up removal of 3 and 4 dot mods from higher tier game modes as well as a list of other mod-related QoL suggestions I've seen floating around in the player community. It might take a while, but it's something Crumb and I will continue to bring up in our discussions with the devs.

That's great to hear thank you doja, general idea on the other qol mod related stuff you guys have been discussing? I've been wanting a mod economy improvement to catch up to character shard increases for a while. It really is frustrating when you're held back from using characters by mods.

Gear has improved (still a ways to go though!) But mods are woefully far behind. It takes forever to get enough materials to upgrade 5 dot mods. 6 dot is one thing, but 5 dot mods shouldn't take this much, and at the end of the day if the speed doesn't bump up enough you've wasted all that material and time. Making those materials easier to stockpile would really help in being able to meaningfully use characters

"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2333738" wrote:

"Ravens1113;c-2333722" wrote:

"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2333705" wrote:
Thought I'd drop in and let you know that I have brought up removal of 3 and 4 dot mods from higher tier game modes as well as a list of other mod-related QoL suggestions I've seen floating around in the player community. It might take a while, but it's something Crumb and I will continue to bring up in our discussions with the devs.

Happy to hear that you guys are still pushing hard for the community. Beyond disappointing that no matter how much you and crumb push, the devs that make the ultimate decision still think they know what’s best for the community and choose to ignore your ideas and our requests.

They're typically really receptive. They want to make a great game that players enjoy. Sometimes it's about finding the right time. The schedule is planned out a long time in advance and trying to sandwich things in can be tricky. Especially when unforeseen issues need to be triaged, etc.

It's a process and I think we'll be able to get some good things done from a QoL standpoint this year.

Im sorry Doja, but this just doesn't seem to be true at all...the community has received a very small amount of what we are actually asking for. No need to go over everything that the community wants, as we all know what they are because we've been asking for years now.....(Looking at you Ship squads!)


Also, if there is indeed a plan, I think that we deserve to know what the plan is with ships....one ship in a year...and you release a new one that we wont get to play for three months......

Also also, fix mod management, since we are talking about mods....its horrible that to get good modding tools, I have to pay $10 for it....for shame.