I think defensive buffs are the most useless cards in the conquest. Who needs defensive buffs during his turn. He needs them for the enemy turns he is going to face.Until now they were just useful in combination with cooling system disks. But now as they are pulling off the disk, is it even worthy to stay without any rework?Feeling bad for quickening disks. Obi wan lead Droideka(zeta) and 6 quickening disks really broke the game. No one in the community talked about this. But still CG found out how I was having fun. Really sad.

There’s one (Volatile Hyperaccelerator?) that grants enemies +5% speed at the start of their turns in exchange for taking 10% Health damage... aka 2 DOTs.No thank you.... oh and that’s what killed Quickening. Ah. Wonder what made Dread so broken (compared to other purples).

Def buffs useless? You bring def buffs, offensive buffs and Deployable Cooling Systems. DCS gives a chance to reduce cooldowns for each buff you gain. More buffs--more chances to reduce cooldown. The most OP disc combo is DCS, off buffs, def buffs, tm on buff gain and offense stacking on buff gain. GMY can AOE entire squads out of existence. Vader can chain MM endlessly. Palp lead, Tarkin and Piett enables Tarkin to spam his debuff special, stack Emperor's Trap to a ridiculous number and then wipe out the enemy with one AOE for a few million dmg. Far from useless, especially when there's a disc that grants speed to the enemy.

"Zanir;c-2253225" wrote:Def buffs useless? You bring def buffs, offensive buffs and Deployable Cooling Systems. DCS gives a chance to reduce cooldowns for each buff you gain. More buffs--more chances to reduce cooldown. The most OP disc combo is DCS, off buffs, def buffs, tm on buff gain and offense stacking on buff gain. GMY can AOE entire squads out of existence. Vader can chain MM endlessly. Palp lead, Tarkin and Piett enables Tarkin to spam his debuff special, stack Emperor's Trap to a ridiculous number and then wipe out the enemy with one AOE for a few million dmg. Far from useless, especially when there's a disc that grants speed to the enemy. What the OP meant was it was useless in its own effects. You gain the buffs at the start of your turn, for one turn. Once that turn is over the buffs expire. The only thing the defensive buffs help with is mitigated some damage from a counter attack(s).Yes they are part of the Deployable Cooling Systems engine, but not good on their own. They should have a two-turn duration to give any real benefit.

Aren't the most useless datadisks the ones who grant bonus to Healers?? Like, who uses Healers?? There are so few characters with this tag!I don't use a single Healer in Conquest. I suppose many people use Bindo, and maaayyybe some people who have Relic NighSisters may use them too??... but that's it. I doubt any other healers are used at all x)

While not necessarily useless, the removing TM on damage of an opponent is a really bad disc to use. It makes you have to avoid certain teams or characters on your path to not end in a timeout.

Most Useless datadisk in conquest

TargetEadu
4 years ago
There’s one (Volatile Hyperaccelerator?) that grants enemies +5% speed at the start of their turns in exchange for taking 10% Health damage... aka 2 DOTs.

No thank you.

... oh and that’s what killed Quickening. Ah. Wonder what made Dread so broken (compared to other purples).
ZanirN7S
Rising Scout
4 years ago
Def buffs useless?

You bring def buffs, offensive buffs and Deployable Cooling Systems. DCS gives a chance to reduce cooldowns for each buff you gain. More buffs--more chances to reduce cooldown.

The most OP disc combo is DCS, off buffs, def buffs, tm on buff gain and offense stacking on buff gain. GMY can AOE entire squads out of existence. Vader can chain MM endlessly. Palp lead, Tarkin and Piett enables Tarkin to spam his debuff special, stack Emperor's Trap to a ridiculous number and then wipe out the enemy with one AOE for a few million dmg.

Far from useless, especially when there's a disc that grants speed to the enemy.
ChristophIV
Hero+
4 years ago
"Zanir;c-2253225" wrote:
Def buffs useless?

You bring def buffs, offensive buffs and Deployable Cooling Systems. DCS gives a chance to reduce cooldowns for each buff you gain. More buffs--more chances to reduce cooldown.

The most OP disc combo is DCS, off buffs, def buffs, tm on buff gain and offense stacking on buff gain. GMY can AOE entire squads out of existence. Vader can chain MM endlessly. Palp lead, Tarkin and Piett enables Tarkin to spam his debuff special, stack Emperor's Trap to a ridiculous number and then wipe out the enemy with one AOE for a few million dmg.

Far from useless, especially when there's a disc that grants speed to the enemy.

What the OP meant was it was useless in its own effects. You gain the buffs at the start of your turn, for one turn. Once that turn is over the buffs expire. The only thing the defensive buffs help with is mitigated some damage from a counter attack(s).

Yes they are part of the Deployable Cooling Systems engine, but not good on their own. They should have a two-turn duration to give any real benefit.
ElanHux
4 years ago
Aren't the most useless datadisks the ones who grant bonus to Healers?? Like, who uses Healers?? There are so few characters with this tag!
I don't use a single Healer in Conquest. I suppose many people use Bindo, and maaayyybe some people who have Relic NighSisters may use them too??... but that's it. I doubt any other healers are used at all x)
NyKynoe
4 years ago
While not necessarily useless, the removing TM on damage of an opponent is a really bad disc to use. It makes you have to avoid certain teams or characters on your path to not end in a timeout.
ChristophIV
Hero+
4 years ago
On the subject of TM disks, the TM gain ones wreck your SLKR squad when you forget you have them equipped. That was this week's "D'oh" moment.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"kalidor;c-2253494" wrote:
"UdalCuain;c-2253400" wrote:
On the subject of TM disks, the TM gain ones wreck your SLKR squad when you forget you have them equipped. That was this week's "D'oh" moment.

I did that last conquest. Having sklr in his ult with 1 prot and 1 health and everyone else dead was a bit puzzling until ...oh. -5 conquest currency.

Healer offense gets my vote. So situational that you'll have to swap it out since so few decent heroes are healers, and swapping is really bad right now as it costs currency. If they removed the cost it'd still be merely okay - ig11 would rock but beyond that it's pretty ho-hum.

That one is supposed to apply to support to(according to a patch note), which if/when it does, goes way up in usefulness.
deathbringer59
Rising Newcomer
4 years ago
@Kyno well then that would make a much bigger difference
DavienBlackstar
4 years ago
"Tintguy;c-2253535" wrote:
"Mi114;d-244354" wrote:
I think defensive buffs are the most useless cards in the conquest. Who needs defensive buffs during his turn. He needs them for the enemy turns he is going to face.

They still work with stacking offense x% for each buff disks

Everyone busy with their colorful two-dot-three-buff disks are missing the real value disk, Heal Over Time. 2 buffs for one dot.
KorAgaz
4 years ago
"TargetEadu;c-2253577" wrote:
IMO I’d generally rather have free Offense Up + Crit Damage Up + Crit Chance Up than the extra buff from 2 HOT disks... but yeah the Heal Over Time disk is quite underrated.

Defensive Buffs would be good if it worked, but for now it’s just bad in a vacuum. (Although GMY can make good work with it with his buff spread... but if you’re doing that you can just have GMY AoE things into oblivion.)

I think HoTs count as buffs. Thus, disk effects that benefit from them (offense, DCSs) accumulate MUCH faster. Offense buffs + Defense buffs + HoTs is what, 8 buffs on turn start? That's +40% offense every time you take a turn.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure the most useless datadisk must be one of the rare ones, after taking account its cost to equip. Why would I prefer others assisting the leader when I can build up monstrous offense in a few turns instead?