Negativity towards Jedi Luke reveal

Going by the constructions delay post, they intended to reveal a huge character. This was communicated to us and posted before things got out of hand.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/229551/road-ahead-construction-delays#latest

Remember as well, there is also new content planned and lots of behind the scenes fixes ongoing, so I don’t believe this is the end of the game, but the start of a new chapter (hopefully a positive one).

I can’t speak for everyone but I loved that we got a puzzle. Really, for some hours lot of people from all over the world were having fun together. However, we got GL not long time ago, we don’t have new content playable for awhile, TB LS isn’t very doable for lot of people, the new tiers of AB were very good but how many times we do it a month? And we can’t use all of our roster or play it whenever we want, etc
Imo we don’t need other event toon (I really wanted the jkl but before GL or in 3 months or so), imo we need events, things to do in game other than go after a character or gear, something to use out currently characters (other than TB, TW and 2 raid that are over under 2h)

"Nauros;c-2125949" wrote:
Had this come before the RA got delayed, or had they commented on the whole mess around Ahnald, or had they teased some new playable content as well as a character with (probably) insane requirements, I think the reaction would be quite different.
Another thing is the "Jedi Luke = end of the game" thing, which I don't think has actual basis in any official statement but is pretty widespread anyway.

The RA was supposed to be released at the same time, but it didnt get cleared in time (they were both supposed to go out on Friday)

"Kyno;c-2125959" wrote:

"Nauros;c-2125949" wrote:
Had this come before the RA got delayed, or had they commented on the whole mess around Ahnald, or had they teased some new playable content as well as a character with (probably) insane requirements, I think the reaction would be quite different.
Another thing is the "Jedi Luke = end of the game" thing, which I don't think has actual basis in any official statement but is pretty widespread anyway.

The RA was supposed to be released at the same time, but it didnt get cleared in time (they were both supposed to go out on Friday)

Sorry Kyno, but, the RA was supposed to be released in march. Say it eill be delayed dont change that

"VaderB1;c-2125986" wrote:


Why things turned sour?

People want to be able to play this game, but we are still playing the same tired old game modes we have for years.

TW is still the exact same mode it was the day they rolled it out, GAC is essentially the same only in an extended format.

The TBs are the TBs, same combat battles, same special missions, the enemies have changed slightly and the LS Geo TB is a cancer, still as difficult as the day it rolled out.

The arenas have never changed, the meta changed, because all they have cared about since the Sith raid dropped has been character development.

Galactic War is simmed, omega battles simmed, assault battles are a chore to many until you get to the challenge tiers, and only challenge tier 2 is especially difficult.

I whaled on Greef and Mando, an outside of TW and GAC and one assault battle I have no where to use them.

People are fed up with PVE content, and to add insult to injury, the integrity of pvp has been severly damaged with the evidence of EA negotiating with cheaters.

That hurts our crystal income and without crystal income the only option is to try and pay.

After the last q&a they let us know that none of what we wanted was coming, and made a vague reference to some new character and something that the entire playerbase will be able to interact with, only to turn around and delay the road ahead that was supposed to come out in May.

The road ahead talks about whats coming, if they aren't even in a position to TELL US whats coming, then whats coming is still months away.

An after the issues with Ahnold and cheating, they bring us Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker, who probably won't even have the Jedi tag, because as they said in the Q&A about Rey, they can't give out that tag, because Jedi Knight Revans Jedi leadership is OP broken.

An now instead of getting any new PLAYABLE content, we get to pay for JKL.

I sincerely hope the Road Ahead drops tomorrow and its something special, because I can't see myself deploying my 6 million GP roster through that TB again.

You’ve made some good points here, but there are a couple of things that I’m struggling to get on board with.

The game is what it is right now, and you’ve criticised all of the game modes; if you don’t enjoy any of them, then why bother? I love the content we currently have, as it entertains me daily, but of course I think there are improvements to be made. Going back to my original post though, should that effect anyone’s excitement for one of the most iconic characters joining the holotables?

Also, a lot of the points you’ve made about Luke are pure speculation. Rey doesn’t have the Jedi tag, but she is a GL. Maybe Luke won’t be a GL, but could be a viable counter if he has the Jedi tag. I really don’t think that he’s going to be this huge paywall that’s everyone is expecting. Even back when CLS was released, his requirements were nothing compared to other paywalled characters.

The point that I’m trying to make here, is regardless of when, how and why - surely people are excited to finally get this character?

I just cannot understand these events where everyone cannot participate. It was during nighttime for EU, and it was over before morning. No notice or anything upfront AGAIN...

"Nosferatu91;c-2126027" wrote:

"VaderB1;c-2125986" wrote:


Why things turned sour?

People want to be able to play this game, but we are still playing the same tired old game modes we have for years.

TW is still the exact same mode it was the day they rolled it out, GAC is essentially the same only in an extended format.

The TBs are the TBs, same combat battles, same special missions, the enemies have changed slightly and the LS Geo TB is a cancer, still as difficult as the day it rolled out.

The arenas have never changed, the meta changed, because all they have cared about since the Sith raid dropped has been character development.

Galactic War is simmed, omega battles simmed, assault battles are a chore to many until you get to the challenge tiers, and only challenge tier 2 is especially difficult.

I whaled on Greef and Mando, an outside of TW and GAC and one assault battle I have no where to use them.

People are fed up with PVE content, and to add insult to injury, the integrity of pvp has been severly damaged with the evidence of EA negotiating with cheaters.

That hurts our crystal income and without crystal income the only option is to try and pay.

After the last q&a they let us know that none of what we wanted was coming, and made a vague reference to some new character and something that the entire playerbase will be able to interact with, only to turn around and delay the road ahead that was supposed to come out in May.

The road ahead talks about whats coming, if they aren't even in a position to TELL US whats coming, then whats coming is still months away.

An after the issues with Ahnold and cheating, they bring us Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker, who probably won't even have the Jedi tag, because as they said in the Q&A about Rey, they can't give out that tag, because Jedi Knight Revans Jedi leadership is OP broken.

An now instead of getting any new PLAYABLE content, we get to pay for JKL.

I sincerely hope the Road Ahead drops tomorrow and its something special, because I can't see myself deploying my 6 million GP roster through that TB again.

You’ve made some good points here, but there are a couple of things that I’m struggling to get on board with.

The game is what it is right now, and you’ve criticised all of the game modes; if you don’t enjoy any of them, then why bother? I love the content we currently have, as it entertains me daily, but of course I think there are improvements to be made. Going back to my original post though, should that effect anyone’s excitement for one of the most iconic characters joining the holotables?

Also, a lot of the points you’ve made about Luke are pure speculation. Rey doesn’t have the Jedi tag, but she is a GL. Maybe Luke won’t be a GL, but could be a viable counter if he has the Jedi tag. I really don’t think that he’s going to be this huge paywall that’s everyone is expecting. Even back when CLS was released, his requirements were nothing compared to other paywalled characters.

The point that I’m trying to make here, is regardless of when, how and why - surely people are excited to finally get this character?

I think everyone wants to see Jedi Luke in the game in the abstract (He's certainly been my white whale). How people will feel about the timing of the release, requirements, kit, and Luke's place in the game will depend on the details, which none of us have.

There's a bit of a catch 22 here. Is Luke coming with relatively manageable requirements compared to GL? If so, what will his power level be? If more powerful than GL with manageable requirements, then you'll probably see some unhappy GL owners. If more powerful than GL with as steep or steeper requirements, people may be miffed with the timing of release depends on how long we have till the event. If less powerful than GL, there are plenty of Luke fans who will not be happy with that particular balancing decision.

There have been plenty of speculated methods that gets around some or all of those issues. But we just don't know as of now.

So I don't think people are unhappy with Luke coming or manner of his release yet. The frustration lies with (at least for me) that they have yet to address some of the valid concerns and criticisms raised by some players.

As for why do we bother? I would imagine, most, if not all, players who criticize love the game. That's the point. If we didn't care, we would stop playing. But as with all things in life, the game and the community management are not perfect. There are parts that are downright frustrating and maddening. So some of players want those things changed or improved. Does it justify some of the terrible behavior I've seen from (a very minority) of frustrated players? Of course not. But being vocal about parts of the game/community experience that we want changed or improved is done precisely because we love the game and we feel it can be even better.

Negativity is mainly because of the state of feeling the comunity is in. And that feeling is: Ignored !!!
On top of that i think ppl do not trust that CG will deliver what they promised, anx that is enjoyable contet.
There is a history of betrayl that is repetead from TB to 5* unlock legends ( some usless @5*) and lately the GL mess: both in terms of event quality and requierments.

So ... yeah ... ppl are kinda sick of paywalls and paywalls ans poor content and delayed promises and not delivering.

"Nosferatu91;c-2126027" wrote:

"VaderB1;c-2125986" wrote:


Why things turned sour?

People want to be able to play this game, but we are still playing the same tired old game modes we have for years.

TW is still the exact same mode it was the day they rolled it out, GAC is essentially the same only in an extended format.

The TBs are the TBs, same combat battles, same special missions, the enemies have changed slightly and the LS Geo TB is a cancer, still as difficult as the day it rolled out.

The arenas have never changed, the meta changed, because all they have cared about since the Sith raid dropped has been character development.

Galactic War is simmed, omega battles simmed, assault battles are a chore to many until you get to the challenge tiers, and only challenge tier 2 is especially difficult.

I whaled on Greef and Mando, an outside of TW and GAC and one assault battle I have no where to use them.

People are fed up with PVE content, and to add insult to injury, the integrity of pvp has been severly damaged with the evidence of EA negotiating with cheaters.

That hurts our crystal income and without crystal income the only option is to try and pay.

After the last q&a they let us know that none of what we wanted was coming, and made a vague reference to some new character and something that the entire playerbase will be able to interact with, only to turn around and delay the road ahead that was supposed to come out in May.

The road ahead talks about whats coming, if they aren't even in a position to TELL US whats coming, then whats coming is still months away.

An after the issues with Ahnold and cheating, they bring us Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker, who probably won't even have the Jedi tag, because as they said in the Q&A about Rey, they can't give out that tag, because Jedi Knight Revans Jedi leadership is OP broken.

An now instead of getting any new PLAYABLE content, we get to pay for JKL.

I sincerely hope the Road Ahead drops tomorrow and its something special, because I can't see myself deploying my 6 million GP roster through that TB again.

You’ve made some good points here, but there are a couple of things that I’m struggling to get on board with.

The game is what it is right now, and you’ve criticised all of the game modes; if you don’t enjoy any of them, then why bother? I love the content we currently have, as it entertains me daily, but of course I think there are improvements to be made. Going back to my original post though, should that effect anyone’s excitement for one of the most iconic characters joining the holotables?

Also, a lot of the points you’ve made about Luke are pure speculation. Rey doesn’t have the Jedi tag, but she is a GL. Maybe Luke won’t be a GL, but could be a viable counter if he has the Jedi tag. I really don’t think that he’s going to be this huge paywall that’s everyone is expecting. Even back when CLS was released, his requirements were nothing compared to other paywalled characters.

The point that I’m trying to make here, is regardless of when, how and why - surely people are excited to finally get this character?

If JKL isn't a legend, what's the point? He's literally legendary. The character revered since the OT and literally a legend in TFA.

"Nauros;c-2125949" wrote:
Had this come before the RA got delayed, or had they commented on the whole mess around Ahnald, or had they teased some new playable content as well as a character with (probably) insane requirements, I think the reaction would be quite different.
Another thing is the "Jedi Luke = end of the game" thing, which I don't think has actual basis in any official statement but is pretty widespread anyway.

Exactly. As of right now the only new content we see coming in is likely just another paywall and gear grind. Nothing about this playable content we keep hearing is coming. New characters arent content. Give us something to do regularly and daily other than simming for shards and gear. This game used to take up hours of my day. Now it takes about 10 minutes