Negotiator

dont forget about relics too, im sure some will but in the right mind is going to g13 and put relics on all the rebel crew members

edit: people WILL g13 and relics, JKA, Snips, Fives though andf possibly Plo if they rework him for Geo TB

On defense against HMF Negotiator always uses Republic Protection as his first move (at least I've not seen anything else yet). This means that HMF/Bistan setups will probably still cut through it unless AI behavior will change priorities for Mobilize.

The problem of HMF setups may be lack of future scaling because only two of Rebel pilots are widely used in other activities. People will gear Han/Chewie but G13+Relics for Bistan/SRP, Ackbar, Rogue 1 and Phoenixes? Not so likely.

I'm currently working on jka for g13 and then relics. I'll probably wait on han and chewie for awhile. The falcoln meta is simply too old to last much longer so putting a lot of resources into pilots for that meta is probably not the best use of limited resources.

I'm still about 20 shards from unlocking negotiator but I have most ships and pilot's fairly well geared so the switch should be pretty seemless.

Considering that most crew members are good in other areas now for gr, it wouldn't be a bad meta to switch to. Jka, ashoka, rex, fives, and gk are all parts of great teams. Plo, jedi counsuler, and clone sergeant maybe not so much but they are only 3 pilots to gear. Much better than g13 on Phoenix and several Rogue 1 characters that have very little other use in the game to keep the falcoln meta going.

And for those that think I'm hating on clone sergeant, I'm not. But he doesn't clearly fit in the 501st team and if we get a new character to fill that team in, he'll likely be the one to cut out. So, it may not be worth the g13 investment for anything other than ships.

"Nadebotfm;c-1963630" wrote:
dont forget about relics too, im sure some will but in the right mind is going to g13 and put relics on all the rebel crew members

edit: people WILL g13 and relics, JKA, Snips, Fives though andf possibly Plo if they rework him for Geo TB

Han and Chewie are great candidates for g13 and r7. As for the rest, I've decided to give one crew member per ship a level 3-4 relic. For Phantom, that's obviously Ezra whom I already have at r3 for squad arena and raids. Gives the scrappy little ship a nice speed and damage boost. For the U-Wings, I'm working on Scarif Pathfinder, who is one hell of a tank. I haven't decided between Jyn and Cassian yet, but they're both worthy candidates imho.

PS: This is zEzra's HAAT damage at r3 with mediocre mods. On auto in P3 and 4. I could probably have soloed the entire raid but I missed P1. I'll try for a full solo on auto the next time. Point being, Ezra is a worthy relic candidate indeed. That makes 3 pilots in both factions who are a great choice for r7.

"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1963195" wrote:


You ain’t gonna beat 183+ AAs, 191+ HMFs, and 156+ Bistans. Even if you manage, the Negotiator can’t hold crud right on defense. 7* will change everything, but until then...

We have one on our shard, and he discusses the team freely in our shard discord. HT, JKA, 5s starting, Ahsoka, Rex, Plo in the back. He beats everyone easily, most on auto. And he doesn't fall far on defense. The okay falcon squads that can climb fine in mirrors can't beat him. Even with a decent falcon squad you need to play manual, it's not a cake walk. GK's opening AoE killing Biggs and dazing falcon is challenging to recover from.

The point is, 5* negotiator isn't going to immediately take over like Chimera and falcon did when first released, but it's definitely competitive.

If I had to guess the meta team for Negotiator it’d be:
HT, Anakin’s ETA, Fives Umbaran (Starters)
Clone Sergeant, Ahsoka, Rex, 4th slot Flexible... (maybe a healer)

Clone Sergeant’s Torpedo ability I think will be like a mini Annihilate. I’ve seen it do surprising damage, Rex’s Kit sounds great on paper. Those 3 starters I think are undeniably the best.

CG will want to make $$$ so perhaps for it to hold on defense there will be a new ship marquee because it supposedly is missing summin...

But hey, all those cap ship abilities aren’t maxed out... (missing about 10 upgrades) & Cap ship isn’t 7*...so

Actually from the testing I’ve heard you don’t want Clone Sargent. Because he’s a tank, he’ll reinforce first and you want Ahsoka coming out first. Therefore, you want Anikan, HT, Fives in your starting lineup then Ahsoka, Plo, Rex in reserves. Time will tell on the fourth (you only get three reinforcements at 5 star).

"JediKnight_MarkRyan;c-1964654" wrote:

If I had to guess the meta team for Negotiator it’d be:
HT, Anakin’s ETA, Fives Umbaran (Starters)
Clone Sergeant, Ahsoka, Rex, 4th slot Flexible... (maybe a healer)

The guy on my shard says that Rex is the less useful reinforcement. He hasn't tried CS1, but CS1/Ahsoka/Plo might be good. Plo is really good.

"Keydash1;c-1964716" wrote:

"JediKnight_MarkRyan;c-1964654" wrote:

If I had to guess the meta team for Negotiator it’d be:
HT, Anakin’s ETA, Fives Umbaran (Starters)
Clone Sergeant, Ahsoka, Rex, 4th slot Flexible... (maybe a healer)

The guy on my shard says that Rex is the less useful reinforcement. He hasn't tried CS1, but CS1/Ahsoka/Plo might be good. Plo is really good.

Yeah watching his ship in fleet has always been unimpressive.

"Ikky2win;c-1964711" wrote:
Actually from the testing I’ve heard you don’t want Clone Sargent. Because he’s a tank, he’ll reinforce first and you want Ahsoka coming out first. Therefore, you want Anikan, HT, Fives in your starting lineup then Ahsoka, Plo, Rex in reserves. Time will tell on the fourth (you only get three reinforcements at 5 star).

See that’s what interests me the most. To beat the Negotiator you want to kill Anakin’s ETA ASAP. I would think Clone Sergeant would keep Anakin alive longer and his torpedo ability is killer.

Could be better lineups out there but I think other ships leave Anakin as a defenseless sitting duck. But maybe other lineups have so much offense that none of that matters.