Negotiator

"JediKnight_MarkRyan;c-1964654" wrote:


If I had to guess the meta team for Negotiator it’d be:
HT, Anakin’s ETA, Fives Umbaran (Starters)
Clone Sergeant, Ahsoka, Rex, 4th slot Flexible... (maybe a healer)

Clone Sergeant’s Torpedo ability I think will be like a mini Annihilate. I’ve seen it do surprising damage, Rex’s Kit sounds great on paper. Those 3 starters I think are undeniably the best.

CG will want to make $$$ so perhaps for it to hold on defense there will be a new ship marquee because it supposedly is missing summin...

But hey, all those cap ship abilities aren’t maxed out... (missing about 10 upgrades) & Cap ship isn’t 7*...so

Barring new ship releases, I think for sure Anakin, 5s, HT are part of a negotiator meta fleet. Likely the starters, but I can see an arguments for shuffling 5s to the bench in favor of something else.

Ahsoka and Plo would be my next two spots given the damage of ahsoka and the utility of plo.


For the final two spots I'm not sure GR are necessarily the best options. HMF, LMF, XB, Biggs, or Gauntlet may all be superior.

"Darth_DeVito;c-1964557" wrote:

"Nadebotfm;c-1963630" wrote:
dont forget about relics too, im sure some will but in the right mind is going to g13 and put relics on all the rebel crew members

edit: people WILL g13 and relics, JKA, Snips, Fives though andf possibly Plo if they rework him for Geo TB

Han and Chewie are great candidates for g13 and r7. As for the rest, I've decided to give one crew member per ship a level 3-4 relic. For Phantom, that's obviously Ezra whom I already have at r3 for squad arena and raids. Gives the scrappy little ship a nice speed and damage boost. For the U-Wings, I'm working on Scarif Pathfinder, who is one hell of a tank. I haven't decided between Jyn and Cassian yet, but they're both worthy candidates imho.

PS: This is zEzra's HAAT damage at r3 with mediocre mods. On auto in P3 and 4. I could probably have soloed the entire raid but I missed P1. I'll try for a full solo on auto the next time. Point being, Ezra is a worthy relic candidate indeed. That makes 3 pilots in both factions who are a great choice for r7.

That only holds true until the ship meta changes. Which it likely will soon.

Assuming you already have a haat solo team, ezra has few places where he'd be amazing in game. I already solo haat with jtr and finn with 3PO and it doesn't require any g13 or relics.

And rogue 1 characters have absolutely no use in the game now that the tb is geo instead of hoth. Even before that, they were hardly needed at g13 with relics to do hoth tb.

Old ben or gk are both far better tanks than scarif rebel pathfinder.

If you are a kracken, by all means max the rebel fleet but don't whine in a month, when negotiator or malevolence is beating you anyway and you have limited use for the pilots elsewhere in the game.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1964930" wrote:
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If you are a kracken, by all means max the rebel fleet but don't whine in a month, when negotiator or malevolence is beating you anyway and you have limited use for the pilots elsewhere in the game.

Oh, I'm also working on Galactic Republic ships while I'm gearing my Padme squad. I'm not exactly a kraken, but I love all things fleet. I'm already able to field 3 serviceable fleets in TW. It'll be nice to have 4 fleets for offense even if I can't use them anywhere else (yet).

"JediKnight_MarkRyan;c-1964733" wrote:

"Ikky2win;c-1964711" wrote:
Actually from the testing I’ve heard you don’t want Clone Sargent. Because he’s a tank, he’ll reinforce first and you want Ahsoka coming out first. Therefore, you want Anikan, HT, Fives in your starting lineup then Ahsoka, Plo, Rex in reserves. Time will tell on the fourth (you only get three reinforcements at 5 star).

See that’s what interests me the most. To beat the Negotiator you want to kill Anakin’s ETA ASAP. I would think Clone Sergeant would keep Anakin alive longer and his torpedo ability is killer.

Could be better lineups out there but I think other ships leave Anakin as a defenseless sitting duck. But maybe other lineups have so much offense that none of that matters.

Right now I'm relying on Cassian or EH as first reinforce to remove Anakin's stealth/prot up from loyalty so I can finish him off. Clone Sarg would kill that plan since he would keep his taunt. That doesn't matter for now since 5* GK is slower than AA, but if 7* GK is faster I'll need a new plan.

Pretty sure it will be faster, not to mention relics give ship speed and people won’t feel bad leveling up GKs relic like they would if they had to level up Ackbar’s relic.

"Keydash1;c-1965891" wrote:

"JediKnight_MarkRyan;c-1964733" wrote:

"Ikky2win;c-1964711" wrote:
Actually from the testing I’ve heard you don’t want Clone Sargent. Because he’s a tank, he’ll reinforce first and you want Ahsoka coming out first. Therefore, you want Anikan, HT, Fives in your starting lineup then Ahsoka, Plo, Rex in reserves. Time will tell on the fourth (you only get three reinforcements at 5 star).

See that’s what interests me the most. To beat the Negotiator you want to kill Anakin’s ETA ASAP. I would think Clone Sergeant would keep Anakin alive longer and his torpedo ability is killer.

Could be better lineups out there but I think other ships leave Anakin as a defenseless sitting duck. But maybe other lineups have so much offense that none of that matters.

Right now I'm relying on Cassian or EH as first reinforce to remove Anakin's stealth/prot up from loyalty so I can finish him off. Clone Sarg would kill that plan since he would keep his taunt. That doesn't matter for now since 5* GK is slower than AA, but if 7* GK is faster I'll need a new plan.

О_о I am killing Negotiator with the same set up as usual so far. No need any strategy at all. Easy target and fast kill. Do you really need tactics?

"Vinniarth;c-1965893" wrote:

"Keydash1;c-1965891" wrote:


Right now I'm relying on Cassian or EH as first reinforce to remove Anakin's stealth/prot up from loyalty so I can finish him off. Clone Sarg would kill that plan since he would keep his taunt. That doesn't matter for now since 5* GK is slower than AA, but if 7* GK is faster I'll need a new plan.

О_о I am killing Negotiator with the same set up as usual so far. No need any strategy at all. Easy target and fast kill. Do you really need tactics?

My fleet is good enough to get first every day, but my fleet is far from maxed (no Bistan U, modest R1 gear). I expect a Rebel fleet with Bistan can easily crush GK on offense, probably could without Bistan if you have good Phantom/Ghost. But yes, I need to use tactics.

"Darth_DeVito;c-1965115" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1964930" wrote:
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If you are a kracken, by all means max the rebel fleet but don't whine in a month, when negotiator or malevolence is beating you anyway and you have limited use for the pilots elsewhere in the game.

Oh, I'm also working on Galactic Republic ships while I'm gearing my Padme squad. I'm not exactly a kraken, but I love all things fleet. I'm already able to field 3 serviceable fleets in TW. It'll be nice to have 4 fleets for offense even if I can't use them anywhere else (yet).

I'm not sure you need a maxed rebel fleet for tw. Assuming you get negotiator and it is the great counter to rebels, you can use that against any maxed rebels. A non maxed rebel fleet can take out about anything else anyway. Relics on han and chewie maybe, but the rest are probably overkill in my opinion.

But if you love ships, that's great if that makes the game fun for you.

"Ikky2win;c-1965892" wrote:
Pretty sure it will be faster, not to mention relics give ship speed and people won’t feel bad leveling up GKs relic like they would if they had to level up Ackbar’s relic.

I can't even bring myself to g12 Admiral Sushibar and H1 has been my capital ship almost as long as I've been playing fleet. :D

"Rath_Tarr;c-1965996" wrote:

"Ikky2win;c-1965892" wrote:
Pretty sure it will be faster, not to mention relics give ship speed and people won’t feel bad leveling up GKs relic like they would if they had to level up Ackbar’s relic.

I can't even bring myself to g12 Admiral Sushibar and H1 has been my capital ship almost as long as I've been playing fleet. :D

Don't feel bad. Mine isn't g12 either. I get first in fleet pretty easily so no point in gearing characters that have little use elsewhere in the game if it doesn't lead to any better rewards.