New Conquest

What I get is people in this thread are a lot higher level then the recommendation. I'm at 2.4 gp and having a hell of a time on normal. I at times spent 20 times just to get lucky rng and win. I so many times simply ran out of time when I had it clearly won. Where I'm stuck at now my entire team dies everytime before i can attack once.

The original poster is correct. This conquest is just irritating and frustrating 

DarjeloSalas wrote:

Why add it now?..............

I wanted to reply to each paragraph.  However, I realised that I'd say practically the same thing to each.

We have a toilet pipe that in the past has been prone to getting blocked.  And with our new Sumo wrestling friend 'Reriko Deruta' moving in soon our landlord 'Mr C.G' sees a potential 'large' issue with this old broken pipe.

OK, so common sense would suggest replacing the pipe, maybe with something a little bigger than can handle Deruta-sans rather sizable disposable waste.

"No, no" says Landlord C.G.  Instead of being neat and fixing the problem 'cleanly' (no pun intended) and slightly more costly.  C.G adds a little counter-flow gizbit here and tension oj-blog there.  Then tweaks a gazmijajibbit there, then takes the whatsit out and puts in a whadjacallit there.  Adds this and that to the original pipe. and voila you have loads of new things working absolutely terribly with the old 'crappy' pipe.

If our large thong wearing friend 'RD' has to move into the building.  Take out the dodgy pipe and replace it with something better.   Something that will last.  Exactly the same as, If RDs are going to cause issues with feats, change the feats to something that won't cause issues.  If players have been having issues with feats in the past, then those feats should not be in the future.  It's the same old problem we had with Galatic Challenges.

Don't add ugly game mechanics to compensate for dodgy game mechanics.  Have something that is intuitive and doesn't leave a bad taste in the mouth.

I really don't like it, and it's something I want to avoid at all costs.  I'd rather farm datacron nodes for like 3 pieces of whatever they are, with a positive 'win' outcome.  Rather than, battle a node where I can't win with a Bush Llit data-disk that's trying to compensate for a CG created problem (Reriko Deruta-san) on top of a CG created problem (problematic feats).

Sounds like you would find Easy mode more enjoyable

harvestmouse1 wrote:

A data-disk that forces you to lose is horrible game design

Don't use it. It's as easy as this. It "forces" you to die (not really, but ok) because is designed to advance a lot in some features. Now you can get tons of buffs and debuffs in just one battle. Some people have complained for years about needing too many battles to obtain them. This is a solution. Maybe you don't like it, but it is.

xp3os692n6h2 wrote:

Well the new conquest totally sucks

It's basically the previous one, but easier. Except the 4-LOM & Zuckuss feature, you can do all of them with the same toons as Stranger's.

crzydroid wrote:

You are not obligated to use the disk. I wouldn't say it's necessary at all. It's still possible to farm going through nodes. But it's a nice option.

I can see that.  I'd rather have a more 'positively useful' disk, but I see that.  Maybe I've added 2+2 and got 9,329,083.  However, my interpretation is that in the future when Relic Delta formula is added, it's going to be an issue keeping the opposition alive to complete some feats.   My answer is, change these feats instead of adding the ugly ugly-disk.  Or maybe.........keep it as it was and don't add Relic Delta at all?

crzydroid wrote:

It also doesn't force you to lose. You can still bring instakills.

Not if the feat requires a certain team that doesn't have instakills.  Also getting 5 instakills on a team without good instakill chracter synergy plus a good amount of the feats....is a real stretch.

crzydroid wrote:

But what is more a waste of energy? Doing all the feats in one battle and timing out, or doing them over multiple battles?

If I 'have to'  (from a PvP try-harders perspective) farm bonus nodes for datacron mats, I'm not wasting energy.  I can see your point though that I'm not everybody and for a lot, this will make life much easier.  However, adding a disk-o-lose and deliberately wasting energy is poor game design.  Replace the whole feat with something that doesn't require you to have to do any of this.

crzydroid wrote:

There are times where you might intentionally time out while farming feats so as to not waste stamina.

Hmmm, a good and valid point.  As somebody with crippling OCD, I dislike starting a Conquest session with characters without 100% stamina.  So, again this isn't a problem I have.  However, again I admit I am not everybody.  Regarding stamina usage, I concede that I'm quite 'niche'.

crzydroid wrote:

The only downside I see to it is that it has laid bare the lack of reading comprehension among the player base.

Also a good point.

This was uncharacteristically self-indulgent of you! Your response to crzydroid is much more like your usual self. 

You don’t need five instakills. You don’t need any. You just need to take out the leader first.

Hmmm. Dozens of posters have pointed out this isn’t true. 

So I've just discovered in the bugs section. CG can't even release an unbugged data disk, apparently. 

I'm not even sure if it is bugged. The text supports a reading where the leader needs an instakill as well. The whole "all allies" vs. "all other allies" thing.