Nightsister Zombie Rework: Begone Paper, Hello Fat [MEGA]

So...we've been promised:
1) Sith Raid changes to DN and non-heroic health pool
2) Legendary event for Chewie
3) Zombie rework

So when is the question? Tomorrow? Next week? Next Year???

I think I liked it better when you announced changes when you had them ready... because they then happened in a day or two. Not true anymore.

Refund.

All.

Zetas.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1653371" wrote:
We'll have to wait and see if this actually nerfs zombie in p4 of the raid. A g8 zombie shoud be able to take a few turns between deaths so can get the speed up from taking bonds of weakness dmg. That should help her taunt more.

But with that being said, I think CG made this overly complicated. All that really was necessary was a slight change to asajj's and daka's kits to make the stacking offense and health on deaths except zombie. And then add the stacking offense and health when zombie takes damage but doesn't die.

A simple change to the kit. Zombie would be better at higher gear in all cases with that simple change and daka and assaj aren't nerfed and the strategy changes little.

@CG_TopHat please consider this change instead or in addition to the ones you are implementing. That way zeta assajj and zeta daka are still useful.

this might the smartest post read so far in this thread

so CG_TopHat while it was good in arena for ppl to spend crystals to progress in ranks it was good and no changes were needed, because players had to buy refreshes to play (as now claimed) broken meta, but as soon players started doing decent dmg in hsith you found an excuse to modify zombie and other teams like clones

It seems that only thing that drives you to change things is to big dmg in HSITH using game mechanics that are made by you

what about double zeta on MT and AV will you be refunding those too, because this team won't work as it was supposed too?

what about money spent on crystals to unlock MT and zombie for team that will not work as it was advertised when published

will you be also refunding crystals spent on broken meta in arena? few months × at least one refresh for 50 crystals per day.

this could be compared to buying tesla with electric motor and now being recalled to install diesel engine!

Just refund the zetas on Asajj and we're good :)

Before HSR I didn’t have a nightsister team. Now I have four of them gear 12 with extra pieces and 4 zetas on them. How are you thinking this isn’t messed up what you are doing to us? Atleast give me back my zetas.

If anyone here wouldn’t reinvest those resources right back into Nightsisters they are crazy. I’ll be shocked if they don’t remain the #1 raid team.

I bet they'll still be the dominant p4 team just with a lower DMG ceiling and something like 8m runs will still be possible but require a high gear zombie so with her heal you can keep your TM gain going longer.

"QuiGonChinh;c-1653565" wrote:
I have 5 zetas assigned to NS. Being that Zombie is really the core element of this team and it’s ability to take Nihilus’ erratic and annoying unpredictable programming, we should be allowed to remove all zetas from NightSisters in order to decide for ourselves how we want them to be used. This we be totally fair to the community. It would also show the player base that you are willing to make a compromise instead just stripping us of all our hard work

I agree with this. Had I known this change was coming, I wouldn’t have used a zeta on Mother Talzin’s lead ability. I might re-use the refunded mats to zeta Daka again but I’m not sure yet. I’ll know after playing with the update for a bit. Overall I think the changes can be good but we should get all our mats and credits back for all nightsisters’ zetas so we can decide which ones we want to put back on. The majority of us will end up putting the zetas back on most of them however depending on how we use the team, we might not all put back the same ones. How was it decided that it would be Daka’s zeta that would be refunded? Zombie’s new G10 ability has the biggest impact on zeta Talzin lead teams. It greatly reduces the value of 3 zetas in this team.

Just had our first guildmate quit the game because of this(and previous) garbage. He was nearly 3 mil GP too.

That being said, I don’t like how this looks either...BUT, we really don’t know until we have a few runs at P3/P4. PvP videos are already out so we can at least judge those somewhat.

I think they should hold off refunding any zetas until a few weeks after the release...this way we can see if the zetas still are Raid viable post update but not get stuck with them if they are not.

If this really is the nerf it appears to be, then we should have the option to refund ALL zetas for NS. There’s no way you can think this change doesn’t affect the entire faction.