Nightsister Zombie Rework: Begone Paper, Hello Fat [MEGA]

I still say hat best would be to make endless horde revive unlock at high gear.

Even with this mechanic:
Unlock- g10
Beginning of fight - zombie has Taunt buff and buff of endless horde. Can be dispelled, comes back after zombie deals damage.

G12, zeta
Beginning of fight- zombie has taunt buff and undispellable buff of endless horde.

Translation - "we noticed more and more people scoring big in P3 of our beloved sith raid so we decided to alter the function of a character that we've been perfectly fine with for almost a year". I swear, these people couldn't care less about known issues until the impact the raid. Really getting sick of getting pissed on and being told it's raining.

Most people in this thread have no clue what they are talking about. They only use ns because they saw a video of how to do it, but they never would have come up with the strategy on their own. So now we just need to wait for a gc to post a video of how this is still viable after the changes and everyone will be happy. Because very few here can take a block of text and derive a strategy from it, they will not be satisfied with any amount of discussion.

"BubbaFett;c-1653623" wrote:

"Franimus;c-1653618" wrote:
Most people in this thread have no clue what they are talking about. They only use ns because they saw a video of how to do it, but they never would have come up with the strategy on their own. So now we just need to wait for a gc to post a video of how this is still viable after the changes and everyone will be happy. Because very few here can take a block of text and derive a strategy from it, they will not be satisfied with any amount of discussion.

While some of this is true, the mechanics behind zombie dying and asaaj gaining offence were very simple..... That being said, we shouldn't need a degree in calculus to read and interpret a character's kit....

Bubba i couldn't agree more it is very simple mechanic zombie dies as often and AV get stacks and it was advertised as such

"Franimus;c-1653618" wrote:
Most people in this thread have no clue what they are talking about. They only use ns because they saw a video of how to do it, but they never would have come up with the strategy on their own. So now we just need to wait for a gc to post a video of how this is still viable after the changes and everyone will be happy. Because very few here can take a block of text and derive a strategy from it, they will not be satisfied with any amount of discussion.

The point is that people have been endlessly complaining about paper zombie mechanics and it has fallen of deaf ears. Once someone figures out how to use it as an advantage in the sith raid, all of a sudden the devs take action. This isn't the first instance of this and it certainly won't be the last.

I regret putting a zeta on Vader's lead. I want that refunded. /sarcasm

"madandpsycho;c-1653597" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1653371" wrote:
We'll have to wait and see if this actually nerfs zombie in p4 of the raid. A g8 zombie shoud be able to take a few turns between deaths so can get the speed up from taking bonds of weakness dmg. That should help her taunt more.

But with that being said, I think CG made this overly complicated. All that really was necessary was a slight change to asajj's and daka's kits to make the stacking offense and health on deaths except zombie. And then add the stacking offense and health when zombie takes damage but doesn't die.

A simple change to the kit. Zombie would be better at higher gear in all cases with that simple change and daka and assaj aren't nerfed and the strategy changes little.

@CG_TopHat please consider this change instead or in addition to the ones you are implementing. That way zeta assajj and zeta daka are still useful.

this might the smartest post read so far in this thread

Not wait & see, if you use NS at all, you already know what this will do to them & thats nore days farming down. This is bull

"Pile;c-1653627" wrote:

"Franimus;c-1653618" wrote:
Most people in this thread have no clue what they are talking about. They only use ns because they saw a video of how to do it, but they never would have come up with the strategy on their own. So now we just need to wait for a gc to post a video of how this is still viable after the changes and everyone will be happy. Because very few here can take a block of text and derive a strategy from it, they will not be satisfied with any amount of discussion.

The point is that people have been endlessly complaining about paper zombie mechanics and it has fallen of deaf ears. Once someone figures out how to use it as an advantage in the sith raid, all of a sudden the devs take action. This isn't the first instance of this and it certainly won't be the last.

They have dismantled every single team that scores a high percentage on that abhorrent raid! Even the teams they tell us to farm or give bonuses to. Assajj works for Haat, but other than & Pvp NS are done. Even then, all but 1 Zeta is useless & it in itself is useless so...yeah

"Ariella;c-1653564" wrote:
I'm hopeful that the lack of comment regarding the negative feedback on Undying Sacrifice means they're having a good old think on how they can improve it

Me too

@CG_TopHat

"At its core, this strategy primarily breaks a core tenant/rule of the game - investing more deeply in a character should always be better in terms of gameplay outcomes; more health, more damage, more functionality, etc. This is a game about strategic resource management and you should be rewarded for strategically investing in a character."

Why do you guys give us insulting nonsense like this?
We all know this is about two things: 1. breaking raids (which means less money spent on other toons) 2. the fact that the "investing more deeply" in a character makes you money from gear sales. So really just one thing. Money.

Just be honest and people respect you more.

Also, you need to be consistent in your zeta refunds. Every NS zeta is potentially impacted by this as zombie is a key cog in that squad, and should be refunded. At the very minimum, AV rampage is also death dependent similar to Daka's unique and should be refunded.

Edited to remove swearing shorthand. - EA_Cian