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"Pan2218;c-1653843" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653812" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653802" wrote:
"SinisterSandman;c-1653800" wrote:
So you're all saying that without the cheese you would never have invested in NS at all, despite this being a completionist game? And you're angry because they restored the completionist aspect to Zombie and made the game what it was supposed to be in the first place?
So you have a g12 cup? This isn’t a completionist game it’s strategy game and a resource management game. Those resources would have gone to a better faction if we knew months ago when the raid launched that this would happen.
I invested in Jawas and Droids for HAAT. Should I know demand a refund because there are better teams now? And you don't know that NS won't be good anymore. I'm sure they will still excel in P4 of STR
Not even the same thing! Did your droids & Jawas get changed a year later? I didn't think so!
They got made entirely redundant instead, unneeded for anything. Jawas did, anyway."yohann269;c-1653849" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653844" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653842" wrote:
"Pan2218;c-1653828" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653762" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653754" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653747" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653746" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653739" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653724" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:
"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?
by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:
Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp
NS are not useless in PVP, they are great in TW and this update makes them tougher, on either Offense or Defense. It seems like most people commenting on this thread completely forget about all the other game modes that you can use NS. With this change the "zombie death cycle" in DSTB most likely won't happen. As with every other change we will need to learn and adapt to new strategies.
Ok I’m sorry they’ll maintain their usefulness in tw but will not have viability in arena. And they won’t be any better in tw than they were before. This is a nerf plain and simple.
I disagree, I think they will be a harder team to deal with in TW. I think they will be better in DSTB. I'm sure someone will figure out how to use MT/Zombie in Arena.
You can use them effectively in all these areas as is though so why say it changes them for the better. This isn’t an improvement in any of these areas it’s is either status quo or a dramatic downgrade. I can three star all of dstb with my current ns team and I get at least 2 defenses every time in tw. How is this mechanic and nerf going to improve that? Answer it won’t. It’ll make them worse.
I'm not sure what 3 star all of DSTB means. Are you in one of the top guilds that has achieved 48*s? Again I'm not sure where you are coming up with this change will make anything worse. It will require you to change your strategy that is all.
Or you can change yours! Sound fair Mr 48*?
that's the plan. I geared up my Zombie from g8 to g10 yesterday. We will see if my NS runs improve.
It won’t get any better sorry you wasted the gear. And I misspoke my apologies. I don’t get three stars I complete all of the phases with my ns team comp as it currently stands.
again what sources are you using to confirm NS got nerfed? What game play have you watched?
What have you watched saying it’s better in the raids? From how it’s written this will destroy their productivity in the raids which is why me and my whole guild farmed them In The first place. It is a nerf because it will not only make zombie worse it’ll also make asaj and talzin worse In the process."yohann269;c-1653772" wrote:
"BubbaFett;c-1653757" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653747" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653746" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653739" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653724" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:
"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?
by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:
Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp
NS are not useless in PVP, they are great in TW and this update makes them tougher, on either Offense or Defense. It seems like most people commenting on this thread completely forget about all the other game modes that you can use NS. With this change the "zombie death cycle" in DSTB most likely won't happen. As with every other change we will need to learn and adapt to new strategies.
Ok I’m sorry they’ll maintain their usefulness in tw but will not have viability in arena. And they won’t be any better in tw than they were before. This is a nerf plain and simple.
I disagree, I think they will be a harder team to deal with in TW. I think they will be better in DSTB. I'm sure someone will figure out how to use MT/Zombie in Arena.
You are missing the bottom line..... People invested in this team solely for the fact that they did good damage in the Sith raid.... The raid predates the announcement that they were going to look at making changes by several months.... People invested in something and they will no longer be getting the same return on their investments..
Not to mention, the toon will now.need further investment.... as if having to up her gear now.to make her viable isn't enough, there is now a.nrw skill that is going to require purple mats, omegas and credits to use.... It's absolutely ridiculous....
It's a choice they made, I invested heavily in Reaper and the pilots. Initially Reaper was not as good in ships 2.0. I still think it's a good ship and maxed it again. But at the time a lot of people were upset about that "nerf" It never crossed my mind to demand a refund because I maxed DT/Shore to help the ship. The NS faction is still super helpful in a lot of facets of the game.
Wrong. Pvp & thats it. Even then every ability is now garbage, with or with out Zombie"Pan2218;c-1653856" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653772" wrote:
"BubbaFett;c-1653757" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653747" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653746" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653739" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653724" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:
"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?
by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:
Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp
NS are not useless in PVP, they are great in TW and this update makes them tougher, on either Offense or Defense. It seems like most people commenting on this thread completely forget about all the other game modes that you can use NS. With this change the "zombie death cycle" in DSTB most likely won't happen. As with every other change we will need to learn and adapt to new strategies.
Ok I’m sorry they’ll maintain their usefulness in tw but will not have viability in arena. And they won’t be any better in tw than they were before. This is a nerf plain and simple.
I disagree, I think they will be a harder team to deal with in TW. I think they will be better in DSTB. I'm sure someone will figure out how to use MT/Zombie in Arena.
You are missing the bottom line..... People invested in this team solely for the fact that they did good damage in the Sith raid.... The raid predates the announcement that they were going to look at making changes by several months.... People invested in something and they will no longer be getting the same return on their investments..
Not to mention, the toon will now.need further investment.... as if having to up her gear now.to make her viable isn't enough, there is now a.nrw skill that is going to require purple mats, omegas and credits to use.... It's absolutely ridiculous....
It's a choice they made, I invested heavily in Reaper and the pilots. Initially Reaper was not as good in ships 2.0. I still think it's a good ship and maxed it again. But at the time a lot of people were upset about that "nerf" It never crossed my mind to demand a refund because I maxed DT/Shore to help the ship. The NS faction is still super helpful in a lot of facets of the game.
Wrong. Pvp & thats it. Even then every ability is now garbage, with or with out Zombie
so if you use a team without zombie, it is now worse because Zombie got reworked?"petersont79;c-1653803" wrote:
If you do not like the changes that are being made, there is an easy fix for this. Find the uninstall app on your phone.
Same to you if you're upset about other people's priorities. Easy fix, don't read the feedback page- These arguments are getting circular now, can we just agree to disagree for the moment and start at Speed 0 again?
"SinisterSandman;c-1653863" wrote:
These arguments are getting circular now, can we just agree to disagree for the moment and start at Speed 0 again?
Nope I have no interest in dropping this I will become the biggest ear worm for cg and ea until this is corrected and reversed"cannonfodder_iv;c-1653837" wrote:
I think a lot of people complaining about P3 of HSTR are being a little bit disingenuous on the timeline here. The Paper Zombie nerf was announced back in July (they all but called it a nerf, clearly indicating she would be less useful in a lower geared state), but the "Death Storm" team was made popular in early to mid-August. Anyone complaining about gearing up NS for P3 only to be enraged by the change to the mechanic isn't being honest with themselves.
As for P4. Maybe we should wait and see a little bit. I personally think that the updates to her, including the multiple revives are going to turn NS into an unpleasant experience in PvP, as it's much more challenging to avoid starting the revive train. We shall see.
NS still seem like a quality faction for a lot of game modes, just might require a little more gear and a little more thought. There are not a lot of viable heroic tier toons at gear 10, she might be the first.
Are you aware that the p3 mechanic works with a fat zombie? Here's the display
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmOxdYaRZfw"BubbaFett;c-1653860" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653812" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653802" wrote:
"SinisterSandman;c-1653800" wrote:
So you're all saying that without the cheese you would never have invested in NS at all, despite this being a completionist game? And you're angry because they restored the completionist aspect to Zombie and made the game what it was supposed to be in the first place?
So you have a g12 cup? This isn’t a completionist game it’s strategy game and a resource management game. Those resources would have gone to a better faction if we knew months ago when the raid launched that this would happen.
I invested in Jawas and Droids for HAAT. Should I know demand a refund because there are better teams now? And you don't know that NS won't be good anymore. I'm sure they will still excel in P4 of STR
Did they nerf the hell out of your droids when they found out they did well?
Well they did alter completely why I bothered farming jawas so if someone wants a refund for ns and gets one then one should get one for jawas. Jawas used to be required for mods now they’re not. I farmed them just for that. I’m not going to ask for a refund because when it comes down to it I’d probably farm them eventually.
The whole nerf thing is a problem for me because you create something that does well or you use a strategy that runs well and we are getting penalized because of it. Cg is already dumbing down str because it obviously isn’t working as it’s suppose to. So why penalize people that found ways to make it work.
I’m going to still use ns and gear up zombie but it still grinds my gears. Stop penalizing players for your mistakes.
Thanks for most of the changes in other things but stop dumbing down characters and strategies that actually work. You’ll still make your money"cannonfodder_iv;c-1653837" wrote:
I think a lot of people complaining about P3 of HSTR are being a little bit disingenuous on the timeline here. The Paper Zombie nerf was announced back in July (they all but called it a nerf, clearly indicating she would be less useful in a lower geared state), but the "Death Storm" team was made popular in early to mid-August. Anyone complaining about gearing up NS for P3 only to be enraged by the change to the mechanic isn't being honest with themselves.
As for P4. Maybe we should wait and see a little bit. I personally think that the updates to her, including the multiple revives are going to turn NS into an unpleasant experience in PvP, as it's much more challenging to avoid starting the revive train. We shall see.
NS still seem like a quality faction for a lot of game modes, just might require a little more gear and a little more thought. There are not a lot of viable heroic tier toons at gear 10, she might be the first.
Not true. Deathstorm has been around since last December, maybe earlier.
I agree on waiting though, this may not be as bad as it initially seems. Just hope it goes live after my guilds Sith raid tonight.
