Nightsister Zombie Rework: Begone Paper, Hello Fat [MEGA]

No fix needed, whats next that gets nerfed??

The only reason to zeta hoda for the cooldown reset was to use with a reviving toon to recall all of those assists in a raid or arena otherwise that zeta is worthless.. keep the daka zeta I want thr hoda one back

"Pan2218;c-1653824" wrote:

If you use them that much, you shouldn't have to try it. You should know from the description that it will infact not be easier set up for P3. Traya will have been enraged IF & when you get set up.

I've been running Deathstorm since it was posted on Reddit. Your experience is not at all in line with mine. What tier are you running and when, pre-change, do you have the setup complete? What's traya's turn counter?

When I do it in heroic, the run is either blown or setup when traya hits 12 on her turn counter. By then bonds is stacked into the 30s and she just did her AOE bringing most of my team to either dead or yellow and red. MANY times, Daka dies with the other two and I have a chance to bring her back with a basic attack on a sabre to complete the setup. There's no way in hell it would take an additional 12 turns from Traya to kill off a revived nightsister or two.

"Crynus;c-1653904" wrote:

"Chewy88;c-1653899" wrote:

"Crynus;c-1653896" wrote:

"LordReptilious;c-1653058" wrote:
Paper Zombie... fixed a problem where there was none... Arena Shard Chat Mafia... a big problem that SWGOH refuses to fix... ugh!

how do you propose it gets fixed? eliminate discord?

Have a further reach to battle. If someone in the top 100 could take on the top ten without having to fight all the way down through the ranks this would allow for everyone to have an opportunity at the top rewards in arena not just the ones in the shard chats.

i dont understand how that will help. if there is a "mafia" keeping people out of the top 10 how will further reach help?

Because if you have to use four battles to get to the top ten then you have one battle to get to 1 and then you’re done without refreshes. If you can constantly take on the number one you won’t be wasting battles and everyone without the fear of collusion will be fighting for number 1

"BubbaFett;c-1653890" wrote:

"yohann269;c-1653872" wrote:

"BubbaFett;c-1653860" wrote:

"yohann269;c-1653812" wrote:

"Chewy88;c-1653802" wrote:

"SinisterSandman;c-1653800" wrote:
So you're all saying that without the cheese you would never have invested in NS at all, despite this being a completionist game? And you're angry because they restored the completionist aspect to Zombie and made the game what it was supposed to be in the first place?

So you have a g12 cup? This isn’t a completionist game it’s strategy game and a resource management game. Those resources would have gone to a better faction if we knew months ago when the raid launched that this would happen.

I invested in Jawas and Droids for HAAT. Should I know demand a refund because there are better teams now? And you don't know that NS won't be good anymore. I'm sure they will still excel in P4 of STR

Did they nerf the hell out of your droids when they found out they did well?

just remember you are complaining because your g6 zombie is not good anymore.

It's not about whether a G6 zombie is good anymore, did you even read through this thread?

People invested in this whole team based off existing mechanics and raid scores..... People put time, effort and.money into getting this team up there.... They could have done many things to incentivize gearing zombie without changing base mechankcs, but instead they not only made gearing a necessity, they also added an ability that will require even more resources (purples and omegas) to make the toon viable and, to add insult to injury, they locked the ability behind a gear wall higher than any other gear wall in the game.....

that's the state of the game. The gear to get zombie to g10 is not hard to find or difficult to farm except for the Mk6 nubian disks(raid reward). But as I said earlier NS geared up are great for other aspects of the game not just STR. The incentive could be NS scores increase with this change to zombie and make it easier to get top 10 for g12+ gear or Traya shards.

"Chewy88;c-1653910" wrote:

"Crynus;c-1653904" wrote:

"Chewy88;c-1653899" wrote:

"Crynus;c-1653896" wrote:

"LordReptilious;c-1653058" wrote:
Paper Zombie... fixed a problem where there was none... Arena Shard Chat Mafia... a big problem that SWGOH refuses to fix... ugh!

how do you propose it gets fixed? eliminate discord?

Have a further reach to battle. If someone in the top 100 could take on the top ten without having to fight all the way down through the ranks this would allow for everyone to have an opportunity at the top rewards in arena not just the ones in the shard chats.

i dont understand how that will help. if there is a "mafia" keeping people out of the top 10 how will further reach help?

Because if you have to use four battles to get to the top ten then you have one battle to get to 1 and then you’re done without refreshes. If you can constantly take on the number one you won’t be wasting battles and everyone without the fear of collusion will be fighting for number 1

With the potential for 100 people attacking #1, what makes you think you’d ever get a chance? Yes the mafia would be broken up... if that’s the sole goal then okay. Improving the overall arena experience needs some work though.

This seems unfair. We have finally become a Sith raid guild with the help of NS for phase 3. This seems to destroy them for phase 3. Makes them useless. Why not stop nerfing toons and maybe nerf raid?

I would love to see a guild beat the Sith raid without using NS at all.

@CG_TopHat

I'm a little confused. Why is Daka's zeta the only one getting refunded when two of the other nightsister zeta abilities also revolve around units dying and getting revived? Why not just refund the zetas for all 3 of these abilities and let people place them where they see fit, since this change impacts those abilities and since a lot of players specifically used zetas on these characters based on the old zombie mechanics and Sith raid strategy?

This Sith Raid seems to be the root of all evils in this game

"CG_SBCrumb" wrote:

Hi Holotable Heroes,.
We have an exciting few days coming up! Today, we have an update with new content but also a rework to Nightsister Zombie. Due to the changes to Nightsister Zombie, we are aiming to refund the Old Daka Zeta from all players that have her Zeta’d in a server update on Thursday (9/27). More details tomorrow about how that will roll out to everyone.

So is she getting an omega instead since you admitted her zeta is useless? The other question is what about the rest - Asajj, Talzin unique? Can we get these refunded too? Can we get all the gear from NS put back in our inventory while you're at it?
These zetas and teams were put together to form a certain flow in HSTR which, I should remind you, was released 7 months ago and is still, apparently, work in progress. NZ indicates that, since she was reworked in a weird manner - the kit is overcomplicated in order to preserve the idea which was fun but was messing with the raid. The raid hardly anyone is enjoying now because of the reward structure. I know these are being "adjusted" but we all know how it works - instead of replacing useless stuff you will just take it away leaving empty space.