Nightsister Zombie Rework: Begone Paper, Hello Fat [MEGA]

Well, NS squads are already now trouncing my empire team in arena. I used to specifically target them as they were easy for me...back to the drawing board

Just took down 14% of p3 heroic with my sisters and my fat zombie. Gear up your zombie and all will still be fine

Hello everyone,
I totally understand why the NS zombie need a rework, but I'm a very confused with this result because of 3 things:

• The new mecanism is not easy at all to understand (wich contradict CG previous statement to make characters simple). Description is complicated, but understand how it works in game is difficult too, which is a real problem
  
• The new mecanism change the entire NS faction, especially regarding the new unique. It certainly improves the faction in PvP, but it compromised strategy based on Talzin lead for raids
  
• Last but not least, when NS zombie began to have problems, it goes worse and worse thanks to the speed decrease.
  

The rework have originally 2 main goals:

• Prevent the paper zombie strategy
  
• Encourage the zombie to be level up
  

To accomplish the first goal, a much more simple solution is :

Create an undebuffable state for him to revive (like Jango, Boba) wich is dispelled after each death (call UNDEAD WILL)

Add a condition on Endless Horde to regain UNDEAD WILL (like if she has more than 50% health at the end of her turn, she regain UNDEAD WILL)

Add a health steal on Blight Touch (to regain UNDEAD WILL more easily)

When she revives, zombie has a speed debuf


In result, you see when zombie will revive or not (like boba or jango). If she is too weak, she will die normally.

Now, to accomplish the second goal:

New description for Undying sacrifice: When NS zombie die, she automatically regain UNDEAD WILL. When he is supposed to gain UNDEAD WILL and he already has it, make him die and revive with the same health et no speed debuf, then all NS allies gain speed buff. When NS zombie attack with UNDEAD WILL, his damage are doubled.


With someting like this, Daka and Ventress zeta will trigger as long as the NS zombie is powerfull enough.
And better, the more he is powerfull, the more he will be usefull to do some decent damages.
And more importantly, we don't have to be a NS zombie expert to understand what append.

This way, I think it improves the faction both in PvP et raid, and solves the problems of the actual NS zombie.

"Pan2218;c-1653957" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1653868" wrote:

"cannonfodder_iv;c-1653837" wrote:
I think a lot of people complaining about P3 of HSTR are being a little bit disingenuous on the timeline here. The Paper Zombie nerf was announced back in July (they all but called it a nerf, clearly indicating she would be less useful in a lower geared state), but the "Death Storm" team was made popular in early to mid-August. Anyone complaining about gearing up NS for P3 only to be enraged by the change to the mechanic isn't being honest with themselves.

As for P4. Maybe we should wait and see a little bit. I personally think that the updates to her, including the multiple revives are going to turn NS into an unpleasant experience in PvP, as it's much more challenging to avoid starting the revive train. We shall see.

NS still seem like a quality faction for a lot of game modes, just might require a little more gear and a little more thought. There are not a lot of viable heroic tier toons at gear 10, she might be the first.

Are you aware that the p3 mechanic works with a fat zombie? Here's the display
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmOxdYaRZfw

Not everyone runs paper zombie. That doesn't change the fact that this sucks & is very drastic

The strategy used in this video remains unchanged...correct? I don't see (or maybe don't understand?) how this rework affects this P3 team at all.

TY for destroying one good team and made useless a couple of zetas, just because someone found a decent strategy to pass faster the sith raid (which already destroyed a lot of guilds and made people, which are in same guild for years, to quarrel and separate). good job - again! spare us the.. useless and not even funny excuses for doing it

NS are so much better now in arena, they are beating Traya teams on offense and scores are higher in P4. Not sure what the issue is, but that is just me. If you solely relied on one P3 team for all your damage, then work on your teams for other phases.

Well, I just played arena, and few pve battles with my NS team. I can say rework is not working like you described. Zombie is just getting speed debuf from deaths. There was no sign of any speed up when she survives attack. NS team is useless now. 6 months of work on them has gone thru window. TY for that.

P.S.

I'm not whale, but I'm not ftp player either, and this is not first time I got cheated for my money from EA and EA associated studios. I like to support SWGOH and your dev team for good work, and for my enjoyment. But this trend of destroying player investments will for sure make alot players to rethink their further support of this game.

So I guess in order to get my ns team back anywhere close to what they were I would have to:

Spend actual $60 in rework packs.
Spend 1.3 million to change mods.
Spend probably in the neighborhood of 2k-2.5k energy
Spend who knows how many actual $ to pay for crystals to pay for energy
Spend $10 paper towels because asaaj still basically buffed as well and there is nothing you can do

Definition of a scam artist

Just Why gear 10? Rip off. No other toon I know of needs to be gear 10 for anything

"Egoprime;c-1655183" wrote:
Well, I just played arena, and few pve battles with my NS team. I can say rework is not working like you described. Zombie is just getting speed debuf from deaths. There was no sign of any speed up when she survives attack. NS team is useless now. 6 months of work on them has gone thru window.

Just to clarify, it's not speed up from an attack, it's speed up each turn she survives while taking a hit. My initial reading was also "per attack" and was up for a rude awakening in sith raid. Per attack seems to make a lot more sense if this was supposed to be about paper zombie.

"EwokViolence;c-1654615" wrote:
Well, NS squads are already now trouncing my empire team in arena. I used to specifically target them as they were easy for me...back to the drawing board

Yeah, that reviving first 2 ns is actually super powerful in arena. A squad I usually targeted with my zEp, zDs, dn, Vader, thrawn team and would win with all 5 alive just lost with all but daka still alive for them (I used up both the revives but succumbed before I could take them out).