Nihilus, Chirrut, ATF, Krennic, Gar and Holdo

"Silver_Radd_Surfer;c-1540810" wrote:
Having the lowest of expectations for May 4th has helped. I'm all tapped out, 3x Energy Refresh, 3x Cantina refresh.

I just wish they'd allow 50 crystal standard energy refreshes all day today. Been saving my crystals for today hoping it mattered, it didn't.

Oh well, at least I got an extra 500 guild event currency, 4 Nihilus shards, 4 Holdo shards and 4 Fulcrum shards. That's worth 450 crystals yeah? Maybe? Possibly?

Why would that be worth 450 crystals though? You're buying 6 refreshes that are worht 450 crystals, you're not buying the bonus drops.

I've run through 700 energy in refreshes. Got 7 drops (14 shards) of Gar, 6 drops (12 shards) of DK, 6 drops of DN (12 shards). And 1 drop (2 shards) of Chirrut since I did 3 light side.

I did 98 total sims. 95 Darkside (note that 11 of these were 16 energy instead of 12), 3 lightside.
I got 20 drops total. That's a drop rate of about 21%.

Shipments produce shards at about 80 crystals per shard (320/4=80).

I refreshed 6 times for a total of 50+50+100+100+200+200 = 700.

Total shards I earned was 40 (2 per drop) : 700 / 40 = 17.5 crystals per shard, or about 25% less than a shipment.

If you want to use the logic, but I only what character X shards and I get to choose from shipments, the return is a little worse. For example, DN, it would be 700 / 12 = 58.3 crystals per shard. That is still a better return than shipments.

Obviously, this is predicated that you get a return around the 21% rate. My last run of energy I got 0 bonus shards.

I'll leave it up to others if they feel this is worth the reward. In my experience today, the return was worth it from a pure crystals/shard aspect. However, my opinion would've been different had I gotten all Gar shards, for example, instead of getting DN ones.

"CG_Carrie;c-1540657" wrote:

"Shimrra;c-1540655" wrote:
it was some king of tradition for us to have double drop for may the 4th...we were used to have it and pretty pleased for that.

2 or 3 times a year is not "all the time" for most of us ^^

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

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Run...

"CG_Carrie;c-1540646" wrote:

"YaeVizsla;c-1540259" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1540244" wrote:
According to my sources, this is an incorrect statement.

I also dont recall this being stated either, but I asked to ensure that we are all on the same page.

I'm paraphrasing, but I specifically recall Carrie saying something to that effect on one of the GameChanger interviews. Can't find it at the moment, though.

Sorry, not sure what you're referring to, but that was not my intent. We love double drops, we just don't run them all the time.

I believe they were referring to your interview with Going Nerdy? I know it was a recent interview where this was mentioned. And yep, you said clearly that you don't want to overuse double drops, not that they are inherently bad or a failed experiment.

"Jeric;c-1540959" wrote:

"CG_Carrie;c-1540646" wrote:

"YaeVizsla;c-1540259" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1540244" wrote:
According to my sources, this is an incorrect statement.

I also dont recall this being stated either, but I asked to ensure that we are all on the same page.

I'm paraphrasing, but I specifically recall Carrie saying something to that effect on one of the GameChanger interviews. Can't find it at the moment, though.

Sorry, not sure what you're referring to, but that was not my intent. We love double drops, we just don't run them all the time.

I believe they were referring to your interview with Going Nerdy? I know it was a recent interview where this was mentioned. And yep, you said clearly that you don't want to overuse double drops, not that they are inherently bad or a failed experiment.

not wanting to overuse something implies it's exactly the opposite of a failed experiment though.

So during the Dark Age of the Sith Raid Reward Nerf, I made a comment about how maybe the devs were concerned that the gap between new players and longtime players was getting too big and creating content for everyone would become too difficult. A couple of people replied that in this situation, the devs need to catch new players up instead of slowing old players down. This event seems tuned to do exactly that - it shortens farms for new players and speeds up their progress. This is a good thing, even if you as a veteran player don't feel you benefit much from it in the moment or feel it's somehow unfair. Also, it does seem to be a big clue as to which characters will help in STR...

And from what I've read, it seems like double drops are more of a Star Wars anniversary/new movie release bonus (both happening on May 25 this month!), so maybe save the whining until we see what CG has planned for that?

I'm really enjoying all of it, thank you devs!

When is the last time double drops happened????

"NoFingersLarry;c-1540997" wrote:

"Jeric;c-1540959" wrote:

"CG_Carrie;c-1540646" wrote:

"YaeVizsla;c-1540259" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1540244" wrote:
According to my sources, this is an incorrect statement.

I also dont recall this being stated either, but I asked to ensure that we are all on the same page.

I'm paraphrasing, but I specifically recall Carrie saying something to that effect on one of the GameChanger interviews. Can't find it at the moment, though.

Sorry, not sure what you're referring to, but that was not my intent. We love double drops, we just don't run them all the time.

I believe they were referring to your interview with Going Nerdy? I know it was a recent interview where this was mentioned. And yep, you said clearly that you don't want to overuse double drops, not that they are inherently bad or a failed experiment.

also means its used a fair bit once every 3-4 months MAYBE is nothing near what couuld be classed as overuse. i drink 3 glasses of wine a year. does that make me an alcoholic for overusing alcohol? ;}

Relativity is important in this context. If your liver was the size of a mouse, then yes. If three double drops a year would create a negative overall impact to progession metrics, then yes.

"leef;c-1540964" wrote:

"Jeric;c-1540959" wrote:

"CG_Carrie;c-1540646" wrote:

"YaeVizsla;c-1540259" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1540244" wrote:
According to my sources, this is an incorrect statement.

I also dont recall this being stated either, but I asked to ensure that we are all on the same page.

I'm paraphrasing, but I specifically recall Carrie saying something to that effect on one of the GameChanger interviews. Can't find it at the moment, though.

Sorry, not sure what you're referring to, but that was not my intent. We love double drops, we just don't run them all the time.

I believe they were referring to your interview with Going Nerdy? I know it was a recent interview where this was mentioned. And yep, you said clearly that you don't want to overuse double drops, not that they are inherently bad or a failed experiment.

not wanting to overuse something implies it's exactly the opposite of a failed experiment though.

Oh I don't believe it's a failed experiment at all. It's a mutually beneficial tool that allows CG to adjust progression when they need to, and also create a measure of excitement and gratitude in the player base. Deploying this particular tool can have a significant impact on progession so they obviously want to be cautious when using it.

"Shimrra;c-1540655" wrote:
it was some king of tradition for us to have double drop for may the 4th...we were used to have it and pretty pleased for that.

No it wasn't. Take a look at the announcements threads for yourself--last year there were no double drops on 4 May. There were a stretch of double drops in April, it's likely that's what you're conflating.

The only thing we got last year was the introduction of R2-D2 and a few quality of life upgrades on the 1st.