Nute Nuances Megathread (All things Nute)

"FredIV;c-1083800" wrote:

"TyGonJinn27;c-1083741" wrote:

"Darax_ren;c-1083724" wrote:
It'll be fixed folks, count on it.

The simplest fix is to change the leader ability to 49% TM gain. No one gets hurt.

And send Lugo some crystals, because fair play the guy beat the developers at their own game.

I hope they do more than that. 49% will still equate to several million in damage. It'd probably still be able to solo also. No way should three toons have the ability to put up those kind of numbers with trash mods and gear.

I'm not 100% sure on this. Based on what i can gather about tm mechanics, the difference between 98% and 100% tm gain is big because it would allow the tank to gain tm every time the jawas need the extra 2%. So maybe the jawas get 5 rounds of attacks in before the tank gets a turn, as opposed to continuing perpetually.

if tank and jawas have the same speed then the %2 would actually exactly mean that it takes 50 turns for the tank to get a turn.

"FredIV;c-1083800" wrote:

"TyGonJinn27;c-1083741" wrote:

"Darax_ren;c-1083724" wrote:
It'll be fixed folks, count on it.

The simplest fix is to change the leader ability to 49% TM gain. No one gets hurt.

And send Lugo some crystals, because fair play the guy beat the developers at their own game.

I hope they do more than that. 49% will still equate to several million in damage. It'd probably still be able to solo also. No way should three toons have the ability to put up those kind of numbers with trash mods and gear.

I'm not 100% sure on this. Based on what i can gather about tm mechanics, the difference between 98% and 100% tm gain is big because it would allow the tank to gain tm every time the jawas need the extra 2%. So maybe the jawas get 5 rounds of attacks in before the tank gets a turn, as opposed to continuing perpetually.

5 rounds of attacks would be a 10% turn meter reduction. The number of attacks would be around 50 per topple. That would come out to roughly 500k damage per topple.

"Juex777;c-1083698" wrote:
No bug involved..... Could be viable for some time

Thia

its not a bug so i dont see why they would nerf this combo.
If they are really not wanting this they will likely just buff the raid in some way similar to how they changed health immunity and gave it to the raid once it enrages. Alternately they can completely rework nute in a future separatist faction pass and make this strategy unusable but making nute better in the process

The point the OP don't have the "Lugo" toons, don't want to farm n gear them because Lugo team is ugly. Maybe don't want his score surpass by guildmate who have Lugo team. So, OP file a report by this thread.

Question: If OP have Lugo team, will OP make the thread?

Case closed ;)

"Kane13;c-1083863" wrote:

"Roadburn12;c-1083822" wrote:
its not a bug so i dont see why they would nerf this combo.
If they are really not wanting this they will likely just buff the raid in some way similar to how they changed health immunity and gave it to the raid once it enrages. Alternately they can completely rework nute in a future separatist faction pass and make this strategy unusable but making nute better in the process

Uh you don't see why they would nerf this combo? Well let's see....you can use 3 bad toons with low level gear to solo a phase of the raid. A raid the devs made for the masses to spend money for gear and toons to be able to complete it. I'd guess 75% of guilds can't complete haat still but that will change quickly if they let this continue. Which would mean less money for EA...which is the only reason why EA makes games. For money. Cheers to Lugo for finding it but it needs to be nerfed.

Lets be honest here. The vast majority of EA's SWGOH income is from selling characters like Nihilus, Chirrut and Baze. All three of them have their uses in hAAT, but they're primarily Arena characters. No one's going to pay $1000 so their guild can complete hAAT. People will pay $1000 to have the best new character for Arena (Not me, personallly, but some people.)

AAT has been out for a long time. It took a lot less time for people to 'break' Rancor than it has to 'break' AAT. And pretty much every player who's complaining about this I wager has Heroic on farm already. They don't suffer - other people gain. There are plenty of other people with Heroic on farm who are bored by it - they see it as just a GK shard grind. So this doesn't really affect them - they don't give a toss about it either way.

Yes, I do have the characters necessary for this team. Of course I'm delighted that this team has been discovered. But even if I didn't have them already ready, I'd still be delighted. This is simply a fantastic use of game mechanics. Maybe it wasn't intended, but was Teebo intended? Was zKylo intended? Was Chirpatine intended? I think not.

"Kane13;c-1083863" wrote:

"Roadburn12;c-1083822" wrote:
its not a bug so i dont see why they would nerf this combo.
If they are really not wanting this they will likely just buff the raid in some way similar to how they changed health immunity and gave it to the raid once it enrages. Alternately they can completely rework nute in a future separatist faction pass and make this strategy unusable but making nute better in the process

Uh you don't see why they would nerf this combo? Well let's see....you can use 3 bad toons with low level gear to solo a phase of the raid. A raid the devs made for the masses to spend money for gear and toons to be able to complete it. I'd guess 75% of guilds can't complete haat still but that will change quickly if they let this continue. Which would mean less money for EA...which is the only reason why EA makes games. For money. Cheers to Lugo for finding it but it needs to be nerfed.

I never said i dont see why this combo could be nerfed, i was more getting at the fact that EA/CG rarely outright nerfs toon combos unless there is a bug involved with the characters (except OG barris, rip) which currently there isnt

On another note if they really cared about 3 toons soloing a phase why did they make it so that you can solo a phase of the raid with only 1 toon? True that needs a zeta and takes longer but its still really easy to do once you've got the pattern down

"DannyB;c-1083876" wrote:
Why fix it? These tricks are the way smaller alliances beat the tank, like some use chirpa and ep on p3, it is a smart way to beat it, not a cheat. It should be left alone, and players will be encouraged to farm a toon they wouldn't otherwise work on (nute), a lot of us worked on teebo for rancor despite him being useless elsewhere, I don't see the issue myself.

There's a huge difference between both compositions.

EP and Chirpa require 3 g10-11 tanks. You can get anywhere from 5-10% in damage.

Lugo's strategy requires 3 toons that need sub-par gear to solo a phase.

I can list the compositions in a different order if that'll help you understand the difference more clearly.

"Zanhaep;c-1083890" wrote:

"Kane13;c-1083863" wrote:

"Roadburn12;c-1083822" wrote:
its not a bug so i dont see why they would nerf this combo.
If they are really not wanting this they will likely just buff the raid in some way similar to how they changed health immunity and gave it to the raid once it enrages. Alternately they can completely rework nute in a future separatist faction pass and make this strategy unusable but making nute better in the process

Uh you don't see why they would nerf this combo? Well let's see....you can use 3 bad toons with low level gear to solo a phase of the raid. A raid the devs made for the masses to spend money for gear and toons to be able to complete it. I'd guess 75% of guilds can't complete haat still but that will change quickly if they let this continue. Which would mean less money for EA...which is the only reason why EA makes games. For money. Cheers to Lugo for finding it but it needs to be nerfed.

Lets be honest here. The vast majority of EA's SWGOH income is from selling characters like Nihilus, Chirrut and Baze. All three of them have their uses in hAAT, but they're primarily Arena characters. No one's going to pay $1000 so their guild can complete hAAT. People will pay $1000 to have the best new character for Arena (Not me, personallly, but some people.)

AAT has been out for a long time. It took a lot less time for people to 'break' Rancor than it has to 'break' AAT. And pretty much every player who's complaining about this I wager has Heroic on farm already. They don't suffer - other people gain. There are plenty of other people with Heroic on farm who are bored by it - they see it as just a GK shard grind. So this doesn't really affect them - they don't give a toss about it either way.

Yes, I do have the characters necessary for this team. Of course I'm delighted that this team has been discovered. But even if I didn't have them already ready, I'd still be delighted. This is simply a fantastic use of game mechanics. Maybe it wasn't intended, but was Teebo intended? Was zKylo intended? Was Chirpatine intended? I think not.

+1

Sorry, no, CG comes from gear and not toons.