6 years ago

Padmé Amidala’s Gear Requirements [MEGA]

DEV POST

"CG_TopHat;d-202941" wrote:
With the release of Padmé Amidala’s kit yesterday, a number of players noted the stringent requirements to upgrade her gear level. After digging into those gear requirements, we realized she required more high-end gear than we intended. The following gear is in excess of her spec:

100x Mk 8 BioTech Implant Component
120x Mk 8 BioTech Implant Salvage
50x Mk 3 Czerka Stun Cuffs Salvage
50x Mk 5 A/KT Stun Gun Prototype Salvage

This was due to an error in the gear creation tool we use to design characters, which has been rectified.

First things first, we want to say thank you to the testers who jumped in to help us test Padmé over the last week. The first test was launched rapidly and the testers started looking at it with very little notice from us. Early on in the process, the play testers were focused on identifying bugs, potentially problematic synergy interactions, etc., and it wasn’t until fairly late in the process that we started looking at more subtle things like “Does this gear feel right commensurate with what you know about how Padmé will play and how she’s expected to perform.” We’ve taken a number of lessons away from this first test, including providing more time for the testers to give qualitative feedback early on in the process. Thankfully they brought this to us prior to the character launch, which has allowed us to come up with a solution that will reconcile our intentions without adding risk to today’s update. In the future, we’ll provide them more time, which will in turn allow us to rectify concerns or issues earlier.

To that end, we will not be changing any of Padmé Amidala’s gear as currently published. She’s tuned the way we’d like (using her current gear and stats), and -- given the closed beta -- we don’t want to lose the value of the work that beta group did on her balance. However, we do not want to “punish” players with what results in overly punitive gear requirements for Padmé. Additionally, changing her gear this close to release could introduce new risks into the build and the gear could potentially upset the release or break her balance.

We’ve decided that the best course of action to remedy this situation is to layer the excessive gear into the reward tiers of the Padmé event. Our thinking here is that we want to reward players who are making dedicated progress on 7-starring her with the gear intended to level her up. As such, the gear will be found in the following event tiers:

Tier V - 50x Mk 8 BioTech Implant Component
Tier V - 60x Mk 8 BioTech Implant Salvage
Tier VI - 50x Mk 3 Czerka Stun Cuffs Salvage
Tier VII - 50x Mk 5 A/KT Stun Gun Prototype Salvage
Tier VII - 50x Mk 8 BioTech Implant Component
Tier VII - 60x Mk 8 BioTech Implant Salvage

Special thanks to the players and testers who identified the inconsistency, which revealed the true nature of the issue. We apologize for any confusion this may have caused!

DEV POST

feedback

Keydash1
6 years ago

"Nauros;c-1851183" wrote:

Yeah, the joke is getting old. Hopefully it gets added to some reasonable locations, but I am slowly coming to accept that we are going to be stuck behind an almost unpassable bottleneck forever...

As far as I'm concerned, the new gear is crystals only. The farming locations are stupid slow and totally undermine necessary hard node farms. I'll just save up the crystals and buy in the shop. It sucks to dump 5000 crystals to get someone to G9, but that seems to be the new reality.
Bl4ckDe4th88
6 years ago
That‘s actually not too bad of a solution. I always really liked it, when Legendaries came with good gear, that‘s much appreciated. But 200 Stun Guns and 300 pieces of the new gear beneath all the Cuffs and golden Eyeballs is still way too much, if your
goal with introducing these new pieces
was
to diversify the number of high value gear pieces and reduce the overall need of prior high value gear/salvage, such as Carbantis, Stun Guns, etc.
BTTripleZero
6 years ago
Gear is still absolutely brutal.
BobcatSkywalker
6 years ago
"USAFmedic129;c-1851185" wrote:
While I appreciate the fix, I am not buying the testers told you folks anything. The kit was released at 11AM 4/30 on SWGOH.gg which I posted. By 2pm 4/30 outrage posts showed on these forums and pretty sure on Reddit as well. At 1 AM on 5/1 CG Erik posted Padme’s Gear was under review.

So when did the testers actually bring this to light? Before or after the kit release on SWGOH.gg? Just asking for a friend...

Testers told them about it in the 2pm 4/30 outrage post, u mentioned the post but failed to see the connection.
endertbone
6 years ago
While the gesture is much appreciated I still don't think you understand the amount of gear she will take to max out. I thought when you introduced the new gear you said that it would coincide with reducing the amount of other gear that is commonly used by other characters? How does requiring 3 of the new pieces but also requiring 4 stun guns, 5 eyeballs, and 5 stun cuffs align with that promise? Sure you are giving 1 stun cuff, 2 eyeballs and 50 stun gun salvage but that means we still need to come up with the 3 new pieces plus 4 cuffs, 4 carbantis and 150 stun gun salvage for the other 3 complete stun guns. Why not just give a whole stun gun instead of 50 salvage of just 50% of a gun?

I get that she is a Legendary character and should have a high gear threshold, but why not invent new gear pieces that let players utilize the gear we have literally thousands of? Why not create a piece that requires 300 of three of the least used gear from the challenges? After 4 or 5 new characters that gear will not be in massive reserves and then people have to smartly decide what to farm. You could easily create a new gear that gives the same stats as a carbantis or cuffs but uses old salvage components. Or allow players to trade old salvage for the commonly used gear, like 1000 of one salvage for 25 carbanti salvage.

Can we expect future legendary characters to also require 3 of the new pieces PLUS 4 stun guns, 5 eyeballs and 5 cuffs? If so let us know now so I can just quit. I already spend enough on this game to just get characters I have no desire to spend 30-40k crystals to just get a character to g12 let alone another $100+ to max her/him out.

That is a long way of saying the lack of creativity and transparency is depressing....if you are going to continue to lack creativity to solving issues like this at least be transparent about it and let us know what the new norm will be so players can decide now if the future of the game is something we want to be a part of.
ButtrmlkPncakes
6 years ago

"CG_TopHat;d-202941" wrote:

This was due to an error in the gear creation tool we use to design characters, which has been rectified.
...
Special thanks to the players and testers who identified the inconsistency, which revealed the true nature of the issue.

Can you be a little more clear about the true nature of this issue, the impact it has had on the game, and what "it has been rectified" means for us? Have previous characters been shipped with more high level gear than intended? What makes Padme's gear "punitive" but not, say, Shoretrooper or Darth Revan? If the community had been more vocal about how difficult DR is to gear, would this error have been discovered sooner or is it a new error that only affected this one character? I guess I just want to know if I would've had an easier time gearing characters like DR if this had been rectified sooner.
Also, since the error has been rectified does that mean we can expect future character releases to be less demanding gear-wise? How will future releases be affected by this fix to your gear creation tool?
USAFmedic129
6 years ago
"BobcatSkywalker;c-1851238" wrote:
"USAFmedic129;c-1851185" wrote:
While I appreciate the fix, I am not buying the testers told you folks anything. The kit was released at 11AM 4/30 on SWGOH.gg which I posted. By 2pm 4/30 outrage posts showed on these forums and pretty sure on Reddit as well. At 1 AM on 5/1 CG Erik posted Padme’s Gear was under review.

So when did the testers actually bring this to light? Before or after the kit release on SWGOH.gg? Just asking for a friend...

Testers told them about it in the 2pm 4/30 outrage post, u mentioned the post but failed to see the connection.

Thanks totally random person who just joined the community. I did not know Ultra was a game tester and that the testing was being conducted the day before release. CG claimed they had tested her for “thousands of hours” prior to yesterday. Also stunned the testers had to post on Reddit and forums to let CG know there was an issue.
thirtiethruby84
6 years ago
LMMFBO THEIR TESTERS (not the community)FOUND THE GEAR ISSUE ???? Clowns always have the best joked
thirtiethruby84
6 years ago
You know the testers only played at g12 and never level the character to play
abc1520200637
6 years ago
It looks like I read the dev post wrong. I thought that the "gear in surplus to her stats" were not going to be needed for her. After rereading the post, I realized that instead of fixing the gear, they are just giving us that gear. Which makes her much more expensive.

Also, I used the full cost for the eyeballs because I dont have any challenge gear left, and I know others in the same situation. Similar to how carbanti's are the challenge gear for stun guns, I never have enough of either.

I left out the G12+ gear because the stun guns are generally not the limiting factor for getting that gear.

Im glad that this started a conversation!