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"CG_AaronNemoyten;51811" wrote:

"J7000;51791" wrote:
How about new content instead of making changes that I would venture would anger over 70 percent of your players.

We did just increase the level cap and introduce a ton of new content, so it's not a mutually exclusive thing.

@CG_AaronNemoyten once that you guys have made adjustments to retreat, can you also improve the algorithm for matchmaking in GW? Many are facing overly strong opponents. Thanks

"Jyykson;51431" wrote:
Oh well, finally unlocked GW about 2 days ago, and apparently I've now missed the boat on how to be successful at it.
Hope they made it easier too if I now can't even swap out wounded characters.

just bring 2 healers and make sure you don't use your taunts on dumb things like if you were to put it into auto use.

"CG_AaronNemoyten;51753" wrote:
Hey everyone,

I'm REALLY sorry that the GW Retreat change went live without any announcement.

The explanation for how that happened is embarrassing - we assembled patch notes from a list of data changes, but the GW Retreat change was a server change. Server releases are always handled separately from data releases from a technical perspective, but sometimes they happen to occur on the same day. We are going to have a meeting to discuss how we can GUARANTEE that important server change with player-facing consequences are not released without accompanying patch notes again.

I wrote something to add to the patch notes, but I'm going to let Jesse edit his own post in a few minutes, so until then here's the explanation:

The functionality of Retreat has been changed so that it behaves the same as force-quitting the app. While we understand that many players relied on Retreating as part of their strategy, ultimately there were two different ways to leave a battle that didn’t behave the same way (Retreating, and force-quitting the app). We decided that in order to keep the experience fair and consistent, we would change the behavior of Retreat to work the same as force-quitting.

-Aaron

The response and explanation are appreciated.

Destroying the ONLY aspect of this game that required actual strategy is baffling and EXTREMELY disappointing.

It's a war of attrition. Retreat and substituting in new characters is a strategy for winning war. You've just removed a big part of the strategy of this mode.

Basically, there were two ways to deal with a fight going south: one was complete cheese (force-quitting) and the other some people disliked but was seen as at least a valid way of using tactics to win. Retreat was also a way to manage resources by swapping in characters. You removed the tactical option and basically legitimized the cheese option.

I'm absolutely floored by this. Amazing.

"xJazzx;51819" wrote:

@CG_AaronNemoyten once that you guys have made adjustments to retreat, can you also improve the algorithm for matchmaking in GW? Many are facing overly strong opponents. Thanks

Matchmaking in GW has been an ongoing point of discussion among the CG team.

"CG_AaronNemoyten;51811" wrote:

"J7000;51791" wrote:
How about new content instead of making changes that I would venture would anger over 70 percent of your players.

We did just increase the level cap and introduce a ton of new content, so it's not a mutually exclusive thing.

Gw change is bad. If you dont have 15-20 strong toons you will have hard time finishing. Retreat was good. Force quit wasnt. Now you will play hard encounters over and over till you got blessed with rng Gods.

Atleast reset cooldown between fights so we can use those few precious healers. If your guys are wounded after 1-2 difficult fights how are you gonna survive future onslaughts?

@CG_AaronNemoyten my daily GW hasn't reset, so I haven't been able to test out the new rules yet...but from my understanding, Reset now works like FC - so even if you are 20 turns into the match, it will reset it to the beginning? Also, were there any changes to allow continuing heals (like Luminara's) to carry over from one match to the next since cool downs and such all cary over - or any changes to the matching so that we aren't blown out of the water by high-powered teams match after match? I'd like to think that I have a decent, and at least somewhat deep roster, however when I face 4 teams in a row that all feature Sidious / Dooku / Poe it's going to be extremely tough to keep anyone at decent health from match to match without being able to clear taunts / heal blocks / exposes.

Otherwise it would at least make sense if cool downs reset between matches - and possibly a little more health gained back for surviving characters at the end of the match - so that it isn't setup where we are literally going back-to-back against 12 teams, the back half of which are comparable to our strength or better, each of which starts with a fresh set of skills each match - when we are crippled with carryover damage & cool downs.

I'd like to clarify about how RNG works. There IS a set turn order - that's the Speed attribute. There can be ties that are broken at random, but that's it.

As far as stuns or any other "chance at" abilities - those are truly random.

Please avoid spreading misinformation about these things.

EDIT: I WAS WRONG ABOUT THIS! In GW ONLY, the same party composition trying the same battles vs the same enemies will keep its RNG Seed (for those of you who know what that is). There's a vigorous discussion about this happening right now behind me.

-Aaron

"Bacon;51754" wrote:
Adjust to what?
The main thing that made it doable before was you could use your roster throughout each battle to make sure you had guys ready for the upcoming fights.

Now you just kinda have to plow through increasingly harder full health teams while not being able to micromanage your health and cool downs from fight to fight. Pulling someone out to save their life is pointless, you win with them almost dead or your restart the fight and do it over and over again and maybe they don't get hit as hard this time. It's dumb.

Agreed 100%

GW was fun because it as all about strategy. Making the right choices and adapting. Now the sole determining factor of your success is how many characters you have and how high their power level is.

"Barrok;51857" wrote:

The game predetermines the moves. If you start a match with the same 5 players in the same 5 slots, and you make the same moves, they will play out exactly the same right down to the damage.

Not true. Please stop.

EDIT: I WAS WRONG ABOUT THIS! In GW ONLY, the same party composition trying the same battles vs the same enemies will keep its RNG Seed (for those of you who know what that is). There's a vigorous discussion about this happening right now behind me.

I really like that if you make a mistake you can retreat and have your character fully heal and before you are defeat you can retreat and try again until you defeat you opponent. That how i did my GW this morning.