Please improve Darth Vader

You're showing a fundamental lack of understanding. Characters don't do the same thing in the same way. Vader has an AoE, but it doesn't work like Lando's. He has a spike, but it doesn't work like Biggs/Wedge. He has more hp than ST Han, but he doesn't tank (My Vader is 6*, level 80, health mods mostly 5* and ~level 9-12, gear rank 8. My Han is 7*, 81, maxed 5* health mods, gear 9. Vader's health/protection is only 5k less than Han's, despite the gear disparity).

All that is a valid, but incomplete, way to look at it. He hits harder than Han. His AoE sets up the rest of his team better than Lando. He can't be killed before acting, like Lando and Wedge. Biggs is meh without Wedge, but Vader is great without Palpatine and can still Culling Blade.

Vader is a character people MUST plan around. He's already incredibly strong, you're just looking at him wrong because you're a fan. Take off the nostalgia filter, dude!

Vader has the biggest burst potential in the game, which requires set up. His basic has great utility (ablity block), his AOE has a slow potential AND dots. and under Palp lead is the hardest end of match one on one to kill if you can't stun him, so much healing! Vader could use a little more damage on his basic and I support a cool unique being added to give him 5 abilities but he is really good at the moment under Palp. With his Zeta, he looks to be a reasonably good leader too.

"NicWester;799339" wrote:
You're showing a fundamental lack of understanding. Characters don't do the same thing in the same way. Vader has an AoE, but it doesn't work like Lando's. He has a spike, but it doesn't work like Biggs/Wedge. He has more hp than ST Han, but he doesn't tank (My Vader is 6*, level 80, health mods mostly 5* and ~level 9-12, gear rank 8. My Han is 7*, 81, maxed 5* health mods, gear 9. Vader's health/protection is only 5k less than Han's, despite the gear disparity).

All that is a valid, but incomplete, way to look at it. He hits harder than Han. His AoE sets up the rest of his team better than Lando. He can't be killed before acting, like Lando and Wedge. Biggs is meh without Wedge, but Vader is great without Palpatine and can still Culling Blade.

Vader is a character people MUST plan around. He's already incredibly strong, you're just looking at him wrong because you're a fan. Take off the nostalgia filter, dude!

I have a PLAN, l have an Empire Team, Palpatine Lead, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Royal Guard and C. Phasma even with that "planned" team l am no match for the Meta (Lando, Wiggs, ST Han), l am not a noob like you said, my Vader has over 9000 power and l am rank 30 in the Arena, Vader is average with debuffs but without debuffs he is a weakling, he lack of Raw Damage without debuffs, something that l find annoying is, that a Sith Lord's bassic attack is a LOT weaker than a simple Rebel with a gun, that doesnt make sense, l use Vader in the Arena since l unlocked him, l love him, but he deserves Raw power, even without the debuffs, because l have fought with Rex Tenacity up team, and l lose most of the times because l cant land Debuffs, that is not the case with Rebels, they just attack and win anytime, they dont need debuffs or some leadership help (I use Vader with Palpatine's lead) they are just super strong, and Vader has 2.5K in his bassic attack (Wedge, Biggs, Lando, Leia, Han deal over 10K in his bassic attacks), you must be some of those players that always uses Rebel metas only because they are broken, l use Vader because l like him, even when l know that Rebels can destroy me. I just think that the main character of SW deserves to hit harder (EVEN without the debuff/C.Blade combo) in his bassic and his AoE.

"RAYRAY;799433" wrote:
Vader has the biggest burst potential in the game, which requires set up. His basic has great utility (ablity block), his AOE has a slow potential AND dots. and under Palp lead is the hardest end of match one on one to kill if you can't stun him, so much healing! Vader could use a little more damage on his basic and I support a cool unique being added to give him 5 abilities but he is really good at the moment under Palp. With his Zeta, he looks to be a reasonably good leader too.

I have Palpatine's lead l am not a noob you know? I just think that he needs something new, a new skill or a new buff l dont know, l am not asking for a rework.

Here's how I parse what you've said, and hopefully this will illustrate to you your lack of understanding:
1) You put together a good team. A rock.
2) You fought a lot of scissors and won. Hurrah!
3) You ran into a paper and have troubke beating it. Boo!
4) Instead of looking to build a scissors team to counter the paper team, you are asking for rock to be redefined so as to beat scissors and paper.

This is bad. Do not hold your breath for this solution.

"NicWester;799851" wrote:
Here's how I parse what you've said, and hopefully this will illustrate to you your lack of understanding:
1) You put together a good team. A rock.
2) You fought a lot of scissors and won. Hurrah!
3) You ran into a paper and have troubke beating it. Boo!
4) Instead of looking to build a scissors team to counter the paper team, you are asking for rock to be redefined so as to beat scissors and paper.

This is bad. Do not hold your breath for this solution.

Dude, l get your point, seriously, but Rebels ARE BROKEN, they dont need debuffs to work (as imperials), they dont use teamwork (as the Ewooks), they are not like droids (high teamwork and high damage, but lt has a cost, they are super slow and squishy). What kind of drawbacks the Rebels have? They are super broken l cant beat all those "paper" teams (All of my arena opponents are LANDO LANDO LANDO, HAN ST, HAN ST, HAN ST, WIGGS, WIGGS and WIGGS) because rebels are broken, a single rebel can annhilate Darth Vader in a 1 on 1 fight, l just find that unfair, that doesnt even make sense, as the main villain he should hit harder (without his debuffs), and l think that his AoE needs a little damage buff (and his Terryfing Swing), because it takes Vader 2 or 3 turns to land his Culling Blade/Debuff combo just take down a SINGLE ENEMY (A Rebel team can annhilate their enemies in 2 turns).

Rebels def are the easiest group to pickup and form a team that will dominate.

I've noticed a lot of people here have no idea how to think outside of the box lol

"CaptainRex;798849" wrote:

"ElleMadara;798814" wrote:

"Wildcats1203;798566" wrote:
I don't want him to have more synergy with Palp. Two toons specifically synergizing with each other reduces the creativity of team comps because they have to be used as a pair.

Rebels have a lot of synergy combos, Chirrut + Baze, Cassian + K2S0, Wedge + Biggs
Why not a Vader + Palpatine synergy? They are Master and student

Because Vader killed Palpatine. Sith combos generally don't work, because the Sith are not a supportive group. The only ones that might work is Maul and Savage, because they are brothers.

What about EP lll, EP IV, EP V, and most of EP Vl, they were friends (Palpatine even calls Vader "Old Friend), and in Emperor's Demise Event (LV 7), Palpatine calls Vader to help him withnthe Rebels,nthey were allies for a long time, they were the Sith Duo, Rulers of the Galaxy.

At the very least they should change the name of vaders basic because there is nothing terrifying about vaders basic.

Completely maxed Vader that needs a offense up and crit to break a 10k basic LOL

"xReDeMpx;799891" wrote:
Rebels def are the easiest group to pickup and form a team that will dominate.

I've noticed a lot of people here have no idea how to think outside of the box lol

That's my point bro, Vader just needs a little buff and combo's with Palpatine (maybe an assist), lt bothers me that there are Lando Teams in Top 20 (Arena) and they didnt even have their Landos maxed out, They just choose Lando/Han/Wiggs and other 2 rebels AND THEY WIN (: Rebels were afraid of Vader and Palpatine (Without a Jedi like Luke the Rebellion would be doomed) and in this game is the opposite, l see Lando and Han in 1 team, and l know from the get go that my Empire team is doomed