Hi everyone! I’ve been a Galaxy of Heroes player for almost two years now, playing consistently every day. I’m a grind account—typically not caring how long it takes me to grow, generally being very...
All valid points, for sure. I was also contemplating purchasing another lightspeed bundle this month, but after this update? Nah.
And yeah, game developers have bills to pay, but as of 2023 the revenue for this game was around 90 million—they don’t have to make it harder for free-to-play players to grow and have fun in order to give pay-to-play players more options on products to purchase. That’s a choice that they’re making. Their revenue plummeted from 154 million in 2017 to 90 million last year. Hopefully there will be enough of a dip in their revenue moving forward that they reconsider punishing free-to-play players.
Again, CG_Meathead you don’t have to restrict free-to-play growth in order to provide pay-to-play options.
I think that's what's driving this. You're the only other person I've seen post revenue numbers besides myself. At the end of Q2, this year was on track to be the lowest revenues since launch. I think this update was driven by board and exec concern over the diminishing revenues, and to a lesser extent shareholder concern (remember EA is a publicly traded company, which is why you can easily find this revenue data).
I think this is MEANT to be a cash grab, but as bad as they are at masking these revenue pushes as "for the players" (who are you really kidding, c'mon), this is their worst foible yet. It's CLEARLY not a QOL thing, this is obviously a push for revenues before the close of Q4. My guess is there will be internal discussions over ditching the app if the revenue numbers don't come up.
I think it's correct of the playerbase to be suspicious of this, and stop spending. It also provides some needed irony to all of this, because the stupidity of this company decision is going to halt spending rather than increase it.
The other piece of irony is that of all the products I've seen on the market anywhere, there is a rather vocal and rabid userbase for this app. Many companies spend countless dollars on market research, while EA has gotten all they could handle (and more) for free, by way of these forums and the reddit sub. If they just took the time to digest what people are saying, and cater to the customer, they would have a much more successful app. People literally tell EA what they're willing to pay for, and are completely ignored. It's just a bad company. "Too big to fail" is the only reason they're still here, and of course they have all those sports games people played for many years (maybe still do, but I only know EA from the console sports games back in the 90s... I had never come across them again until this app). Stick to Madden, guys, you don't seem to belong in the mobile app market.
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I’ve been a Galaxy of Heroes player for almost two years now, playing consistently every day. I’m a grind account—typically not caring how long it takes me to grow, generally being very...","body@stringLength":"2221","rawBody":"
Hi everyone!
I’ve been a Galaxy of Heroes player for almost two years now, playing consistently every day. I’m a grind account—typically not caring how long it takes me to grow, generally being very patient about my progress, although I do still occasionally spring for lower-cost Hyperdrive bundles that propel me towards my goal. This is my first time posting on the forums, because EA and Disney have just ticked me off that much with these latest updates which, to me, smacks of corporate greed trying to wring more money out of people.
I’m curious about your thoughts—what are the pros of this latest update, what are the cons of this latest update, how does this update contrast with previous updates that perhaps also felt like money-grabs, etc.
I encourage you to leave a comment and answer the following:
Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend?
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad?
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update?
Why or why not?
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates?
I appreciate you all. This game has become a part of my daily routine, but I feel as though it’s now going to take me three times as long to achieve anything. I almost deleted it this morning, but thought I’d check in with the community first to see your impressions. Thanks so much in advance.
UPDATE: , here’s a solid start to a growing, comprehensive list of all the issues introduced with these latest updates. I really hope you take these frustrations seriously and consider some of the solutions that have been suggested. If you’re actually trying to create a more positive, free-to-play experience as you’ve suggested, you are not succeeding with this latest update. You don’t have to sacrifice free-to-play options that allow us to grow in order to provide pay-to-play products.
I’ve been a Galaxy of Heroes player for almost two years now, playing consistently every day. I’m a grind account—typically not caring how long it takes me to grow, generally being very patient about my progress, although I do still occasionally spring for lower-cost Hyperdrive bundles that propel me towards my goal. This is my first time posting on the forums, because EA and Disney have just ticked me off that much with these latest updates which, to me, smacks of corporate greed trying to wring more money out of people.
I’m curious about your thoughts—what are the pros of this latest update, what are the cons of this latest update, how does this update contrast with previous updates that perhaps also felt like money-grabs, etc.
I encourage you to leave a comment and answer the following:
Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend?
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad?
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update?
Why or why not?
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates?
I appreciate you all. This game has become a part of my daily routine, but I feel as though it’s now going to take me three times as long to achieve anything. I almost deleted it this morning, but thought I’d check in with the community first to see your impressions. Thanks so much in advance.
UPDATE: CG_Meathead , here’s a solid start to a growing, comprehensive list of all the issues introduced with these latest updates. I really hope you take these frustrations seriously and consider some of the solutions that have been suggested. If you’re actually trying to create a more positive, free-to-play experience as you’ve suggested, you are not succeeding with this latest update. You don’t have to sacrifice free-to-play options that allow us to grow in order to provide pay-to-play products.
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I think that's what's driving this. You're the only other person I've seen post revenue numbers besides myself. At the end of Q2, this year was on track to be the lowest revenues since launch. I think this update was driven by board and exec concern over the diminishing revenues, and to a lesser extent shareholder concern (remember EA is a publicly traded company, which is why you can easily find this revenue data).
I think this is MEANT to be a cash grab, but as bad as they are at masking these revenue pushes as \"for the players\" (who are you really kidding, c'mon), this is their worst foible yet. It's CLEARLY not a QOL thing, this is obviously a push for revenues before the close of Q4. My guess is there will be internal discussions over ditching the app if the revenue numbers don't come up.
I think it's correct of the playerbase to be suspicious of this, and stop spending. It also provides some needed irony to all of this, because the stupidity of this company decision is going to halt spending rather than increase it.
The other piece of irony is that of all the products I've seen on the market anywhere, there is a rather vocal and rabid userbase for this app. Many companies spend countless dollars on market research, while EA has gotten all they could handle (and more) for free, by way of these forums and the reddit sub. If they just took the time to digest what people are saying, and cater to the customer, they would have a much more successful app. People literally tell EA what they're willing to pay for, and are completely ignored. It's just a bad company. \"Too big to fail\" is the only reason they're still here, and of course they have all those sports games people played for many years (maybe still do, but I only know EA from the console sports games back in the 90s... I had never come across them again until this app). Stick to Madden, guys, you don't seem to belong in the mobile app market.
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I think that's what's driving this. You're the only other person I've seen post revenue numbers besides myself. At the end of Q2, this year was on track to be the lowest revenues since launch. I think this update was driven by board and exec concern over the diminishing revenues, and to a lesser extent shareholder concern (remember EA is a publicly traded company, which is why you can easily find this revenue data).
I think this is MEANT to be a cash grab, but as bad as they are at masking these revenue pushes as \"for the players\" (who are you really kidding, c'mon), this is their worst foible yet. It's CLEARLY not a QOL thing, this is obviously a push for revenues before the close of Q4. My guess is there will be internal discussions over ditching the app if the revenue numbers don't come up.
I think it's correct of the playerbase to be suspicious of this, and stop spending. It also provides some needed irony to all of this, because the stupidity of this company decision is going to halt spending rather than increase it.
The other piece of irony is that of all the products I've seen on the market anywhere, there is a rather vocal and rabid userbase for this app. Many companies spend countless dollars on market research, while EA has gotten all they could handle (and more) for free, by way of these forums and the reddit sub. If they just took the time to digest what people are saying, and cater to the customer, they would have a much more successful app. People literally tell EA what they're willing to pay for, and are completely ignored. It's just a bad company. \"Too big to fail\" is the only reason they're still here, and of course they have all those sports games people played for many years (maybe still do, but I only know EA from the console sports games back in the 90s... I had never come across them again until this app). Stick to Madden, guys, you don't seem to belong in the mobile app market.
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Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend? It sure looks and FEELS bad right out of the gate.
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad? More simming is great. Never having to do another Galactic Legend Rey battle (or whatever those are called after Conquests) is great. A new store with additional opportunities to buy omicrons is great. Everything else is bad.
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update? Yes. I would have quit this morning if I weren't in a guild that I love.
Why or why not? I understand that battle passes like this are often a necessary evil for gatcha games. Devs gotta get paid to keep the game going. That's fine. Gating things behind paywalls are a necessary evil for gatcha games. That's fine. Getting notifications and being forced to look at quests that I cannot complete without paying, that's not fine. That's awful. That is a very **bleep** user experience. It does not make me in any way want to spend. If anything, it's having the opposite effect. I truly do not understand how this made it through an entire team where everyone said, \"Yeah. People are going to like this.\"
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates? Whether or not the rewards ultimately end up being the same as they were previously is immaterial at this point. CG doesn't have a great track record with that (which is not unique to CG. A lot of gatcha game devs pull this **bleep**). What matters is just how bad of a user experience this is. This and the removal of an assault battle every month does not inspire confidence. I was going to buy two of the new lightspeed bundles coming out - I'm not now, since I don't know if I'll even stick with this game in the coming weeks.
I don't really have any good comparisons to weigh it against in terms of previous updates.
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Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend? It sure looks and FEELS bad right out of the gate.
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad? More simming is great. Never having to do another Galactic Legend Rey battle (or whatever those are called after Conquests) is great. A new store with additional opportunities to buy omicrons is great. Everything else is bad.
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update? Yes. I would have quit this morning if I weren't in a guild that I love.
Why or why not? I understand that battle passes like this are often a necessary evil for gatcha games. Devs gotta get paid to keep the game going. That's fine. Gating things behind paywalls are a necessary evil for gatcha games. That's fine. Getting notifications and being forced to look at quests that I cannot complete without paying, that's not fine. That's awful. That is a very **bleep** user experience. It does not make me in any way want to spend. If anything, it's having the opposite effect. I truly do not understand how this made it through an entire team where everyone said, \"Yeah. People are going to like this.\"
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates? Whether or not the rewards ultimately end up being the same as they were previously is immaterial at this point. CG doesn't have a great track record with that (which is not unique to CG. A lot of gatcha game devs pull this **bleep**). What matters is just how bad of a user experience this is. This and the removal of an assault battle every month does not inspire confidence. I was going to buy two of the new lightspeed bundles coming out - I'm not now, since I don't know if I'll even stick with this game in the coming weeks.
I don't really have any good comparisons to weigh it against in terms of previous updates.
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All valid points, for sure. I was also contemplating purchasing another lightspeed bundle this month, but after this update? Nah.
And yeah, game developers have bills to pay, but as of 2023 the revenue for this game was around 90 million—they don’t have to make it harder for free-to-play players to grow and have fun in order to give pay-to-play players more options on products to purchase. That’s a choice that they’re making. Their revenue plummeted from 154 million in 2017 to 90 million last year. Hopefully there will be enough of a dip in their revenue moving forward that they reconsider punishing free-to-play players.
Again, CG_Meathead you don’t have to restrict free-to-play growth in order to provide pay-to-play options.
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All valid points, for sure. I was also contemplating purchasing another lightspeed bundle this month, but after this update? Nah.
And yeah, game developers have bills to pay, but as of 2023 the revenue for this game was around 90 million—they don’t have to make it harder for free-to-play players to grow and have fun in order to give pay-to-play players more options on products to purchase. That’s a choice that they’re making. Their revenue plummeted from 154 million in 2017 to 90 million last year. Hopefully there will be enough of a dip in their revenue moving forward that they reconsider punishing free-to-play players.
Again, you don’t have to restrict free-to-play growth in order to provide pay-to-play options.
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