Potential CAT AI changes …

"Ultra;c-2279302" wrote:

"artusa;c-2279301" wrote:
Does that mean zombie will get a nerf? If so, then let me retort.
This whole thing is in response to JMK with CAT and not so much CAT in general.
As of now the community hasn't found any non-GL friendly counters to JMK/CAT. All we have is GL counters and very weird GL counters. Rey has a counter, SEE has his, JML has his but if you nerf zombie then SLKR has nothing. The combination of JMK and CAT is too strong and unbalances the game.
A fix would be great but if anyone should get a nerf then it should JMK.

They said they are looking into improving the AI targeting, not nerfing toons

This response aged well...

"Ultra;c-2279286" wrote:

"th3evo;c-2279271" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2279256" wrote:

"Bl4ckDe4th;c-2279235" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2279231" wrote:
If you use hard counters or soft counters properly even a perfectly playing AI can’t win

This is just wrong.

lol

Tell me what perfect decisions AI can make to beat my SLKR with Phoenix :wink:

That's not hard/soft counter. That's an overkill.

Funny how y'all keep changing definitions to avoid the problems with your own arguments

Funny how you used an absolutely absurd example to “counter” the argument. Phoenix vs SLKR…absurd.

Yes, it is possible to lose a hard or soft counter when played correctly against proper AI; there are RNG aspects involved: dodges, resists, crits or not etc.

(Note: I didn’t weigh in on this earlier because I agree with you in principle on the other aspects of the AI issue: the real discussion not this farce with Phoenix vs SLKR)

"InyakSolomon88;c-2279197" wrote:

"XKurareX;c-2279139" wrote:
The real fix would be the use of factions
> Zombie to actually require a Nightsister as leader to revive
> Armorer to only give Beskar Armor to Mandalorians (that buff is absolutely unbalanced and will in future anyways do more problems than anything else)
> Wat Tambor to have full tech strength only with Separatists (or remove them on his death)

No. You cannot nuke numerous other toons because of the problem of a singular toon's interactions. You fix the singular toon, not everyone else.

Exactly - thats why you fix those extreme buff toons. Same reason they remove ignore defense from GAS/JKL + remove Thrawn fracture for GLs

"artusa;c-2279300" wrote:

"XKurareX;c-2279139" wrote:
The real fix would be the use of factions
> Zombie to actually require a Nightsister as leader to revive
> Armorer to only give Beskar Armor to Mandalorians (that buff is absolutely unbalanced and will in future anyways do more problems than anything else)
> Wat Tambor to have full tech strength only with Separatists (or remove them on his death)

That would truly break the game in half. You my friend have very bad ideas. You scare me.

Beskar Armor:
1 Stack: +50% Defense and +15% Max Health
2 Stacks: Recover 30% Protection at the end of turn
3 Stacks: +100% Counter chance and can't be critically hit

Wat Tambor:
Chiewab Medpac: Recover 5% Health and Protection at the start of every character's turn, and 5% bonus Protection if this character is a Separatist

Baktoid Shield Generator: At the start of turn, recover 30% Protection and dispel own debuffs; Tanks Taunt while they have Protection

BlasTech Weapon Mod: Gain 15% Turn Meter at the start of each enemy's turn; Attacks ignore defense and enemies defeated by this character can't be revived

Those break the game together with HP pools of GLs
Thats why they nerf Ignore defense from GAS/JKL + remove thrawn fracture for GLs

"Ultra;c-2279072" wrote:

"fajha_jaba;c-2279070" wrote:
CG is concerned about balance? CAT *is* the imbalance. They fail to recognize that they are widening the rift between top tier rosters who can max conquest rewards, and those that can't.
They are discouraging new to moderate roster players, who are supposed to be the future of the game. Those players who theory craft and find ways to win and climb in arena.
It's an incredible lack of foresight to listen to people cry about poor AI. If you want to get around AI, petition CG to develop real-time PVP gameplay. Better yet, play chess with someone.
No idea how to make sure someone at CG sees this post, but I'd be curious to hear a rebuttal.

Maxing out conquest isn't hard

New players will face other newer players and everyone around them will be at an equal pace

That's hardly a rebuttal; rebuttals are based in facts. You have simply re-stated the delusion.

Added to this ridiculousness, you buffed JMK to the point that if you don't have CAT, you can't win. JMK lead with one unaligned force user that is also Galactic Rebublic (only CAT fits this description) nerfs Sith with defense penetration and retribution not permitted. I was climbing successfully with SEE until that update.

I can't see how LV will be a solution, as his factions include Sith.

"TVF;c-2279036" wrote:

"frackme_21;c-2279034" wrote:
In other words, the AI is working correctly, and prioritizing the proper ability. It just so happens that there's a taunt up which she can't go around until JMK has the high ground. Stop making the kits so crazy OP and ridiculous. If you make a character that insta kills on turn 1, you have to accept she might be forced to use it on the "non optimal" toon (ie, not gas)

CG doesn't have to accept anything just because you want it.

So they should stop the bs about “balance” between GLs and admit that new ones will make the older ones their cannon fodder on auto on both offense and defense. Will save people months of farm for nothing.