I just came from talking about this with a few friends and I remembered a conversation around the start of last year about this.Is there still considerations around buffing SEE? This is from both player and dev perspectives.He isn’t bad by any means but he is sort of dated and left behind in comparison to every other GL. So does everyone still think he needs a boost? And if so how do you think he should be reworked or buffed to be a bit more viable?It’s still sort of concerning that whenever I observe that SEE has been brought up from the devs there seems to be an assumption that he is perfect as is, even avoiding direct synergy with the new characters. It just seems more though that in reality and the players I don’t think that’s the case. Especially if you take characters like WAT and Armorer out of the lineup he looses a lot of viability just there.Anyway again I’m just inviting everyone’s opinion on the matter, let me know your thoughts :)

Not happening, just use SEE, WAT and Armorer and enjoy.

No, even though his team composition is unusual, apparently CG are quite happy with his current place in the meta. From a power standpoint, I would agree. From a lore perspective, as one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever, it would be nice to have better synergy with a Sith team rather than random toons.

"RoopeRenegade;c-2327097" wrote:No. He easily kills GL Rey, which kinda is his goal in the movies anyway. (which he fails to do there, so he's actually kinda OP in swgoh) "easily" :D

Nope, might lack on the defense section but offensively he’s arguably #1 because of his synergy with WAT and armorer. This is coming from a SEE owner.My top 50 is full of only Kenobis and was able to reach top 20 easily with the Armorer thrawn NS sister fister combo. He’s fine a lot of people just don’t utilize him correctly

"KingOfLosing;c-2327172" wrote:Nope, might lack on the defense section but offensively he’s arguably #1 because of his synergy with WAT and armorer. This is coming from a SEE owner.My top 50 is full of only Kenobis and was able to reach top 20 easily with the Armorer thrawn NS sister fister combo. He’s fine a lot of people just don’t utilize him correctlyI'm also a SEE owner who is my only GL. Agree 100% with this. While it would be nice for SEE to get a buff, it would make him overpowered. He can beat all GLs with the right team, mods and strategy. Personally, I don't have experience beating LV, but I've heard it can be done.Against other GLs, I can say with firsthand experience that win rates are reliably high. Armorer and/or Wat are required.

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LordDirt
New Traveler
3 years ago
Not happening, just use SEE, WAT and Armorer and enjoy.
BobaFettish86
3 years ago
No, even though his team composition is unusual, apparently CG are quite happy with his current place in the meta. From a power standpoint, I would agree. From a lore perspective, as one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever, it would be nice to have better synergy with a Sith team rather than random toons.
Legend91x
3 years ago
"RoopeRenegade;c-2327097" wrote:
No. He easily kills GL Rey, which kinda is his goal in the movies anyway. (which he fails to do there, so he's actually kinda OP in swgoh)

"easily" :D
KingofLosing1
Seasoned Rookie
3 years ago
Nope, might lack on the defense section but offensively he’s arguably #1 because of his synergy with WAT and armorer. This is coming from a SEE owner.
My top 50 is full of only Kenobis and was able to reach top 20 easily with the Armorer thrawn NS sister fister combo. He’s fine a lot of people just don’t utilize him correctly
nfi_gamer
3 years ago
"KingOfLosing;c-2327172" wrote:
Nope, might lack on the defense section but offensively he’s arguably #1 because of his synergy with WAT and armorer. This is coming from a SEE owner.
My top 50 is full of only Kenobis and was able to reach top 20 easily with the Armorer thrawn NS sister fister combo. He’s fine a lot of people just don’t utilize him correctly

I'm also a SEE owner who is my only GL. Agree 100% with this. While it would be nice for SEE to get a buff, it would make him overpowered. He can beat all GLs with the right team, mods and strategy. Personally, I don't have experience beating LV, but I've heard it can be done.

Against other GLs, I can say with firsthand experience that win rates are reliably high. Armorer and/or Wat are required.
TargetEadu
3 years ago
Armorer and Wat don’t really do anything to boost SEE’s offense, they just let him survive to make use of it.
justin-marks92
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
"RoopeRenegade;c-2327382" wrote:
"KakashiLord;c-2327166" wrote:
"RoopeRenegade;c-2327097" wrote:
No. He easily kills GL Rey, which kinda is his goal in the movies anyway. (which he fails to do there, so he's actually kinda OP in swgoh)

I wouldn’t say easily. Without her ultimate sure but otherwise you’ll still be wanting WAT and it’s still 50/50 for the win or not. Even with WATs buff she can one shot SEE.

Check Ahnald's stream on youtube. He recorded his runs, and beat very well modded, high end GL Rey's with SEE (+wat) at 100% success the last 6 attempts I can recall.

Cheers for the suggestion, I’ll have a look :)
justin-marks92
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
"LordDirt;c-2327067" wrote:
Not happening, just use SEE, WAT and Armorer and enjoy.

Fair enough, figured I’d check around. It’s a shame he needs them to be comparable to other GLs. Really he isn’t a GL to be honest ?
justin-marks92
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
"BobaFettish86;c-2327075" wrote:
No, even though his team composition is unusual, apparently CG are quite happy with his current place in the meta. From a power standpoint, I would agree. From a lore perspective, as one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever, it would be nice to have better synergy with a Sith team rather than random toons.

That’s fair enough I guess. I think it’s more his actual utility within the game and how effective he is across different modes that makes him underwhelming for me. Like you mentioned he doesn’t really have great synergy with his own faction.

I don’t know. He is missing something. If I were to rank him he certainly seems like the least useful GL. It’s sort of a shame because he was my first choice and probably should have done my research before going for him.
Xellius13
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
Well he can solo JML, and can delete both Kylo and Rey and if RNGesus allows LV as well. The only gl he’s absolutely trash against is JMK. SEE never was, is or will be a decent def team, so stop dreaming of him being such.