Power creep at 100% now

"CaptainRex;822667" wrote:
The Gear Grind will kill this game before the power creep.

+100000000 seriously can this man get an up vote? He understands the real issue besides instead of whining about toons that are starting to be phased out of the meta.

"Bobby777;866342" wrote:

"CaptainRex;822667" wrote:
The Gear Grind will kill this game before the power creep.

+100000000 seriously can this man get an up vote? He understands the real issue besides instead of whining about toons that are starting to be phased out of the meta.

In my opinion, the two issues go hand in hand. Power creep=farm these new toons to stay competitive=grind gear for them

"Osisiv;826464" wrote:

"DarthMasterShawn;823760" wrote:
....While I have no issue beating up chaze builds I do have issue with the inconsistent "reworks" to diminsh characters. I hate the term OP and I hate nerf calls. The closest thing I've ever seen in this game to OP is Chaze, by a good bit. Wiggs was wicked, but 1 dimentional, thus not OP. Chaze does very good damage, taunts,counters,cleanmses, heals, heal over time, Tenacity up, removes buffs on opposition, assists, grants TM gain. The team literally has every ability possible except Stun, revive/resurrect, and TM removal. How can they not see how completely they outclass anything else?

Finally a post that makes sense.

There really is too much "reworking" in this game. It's annoying and has a serious potential to turn off spenders. No one wants anything changed after purchase. It's rarely to the positive, always negative.

I too detest the terms "OP" and "nerf" and "power creep" because the majority of the time it's just someone whining. The sum of their argument always equals "nerf them because I don't have them and don't know what to do".

IMO these newly "powerful" characters seem to be bringing in a new era to the game where toons have more abilities and it adds up to a more complex, sophisticated and FUN game. I imagine older toons will become more viable in the future with new synergies in the line of the new Bounty Hunter group.

Trust me I'm all for characters being more fun to play and having more than one ability and role to them. That makes it interesting and keeps the game moving. But when you have two characters who have 90% of the possible swgoh kit, then you could easily see that it's unbalanced. At some point it comes down to "why get a cleanser, attacker, healer, debuffer, tank and buff remover when these two guys do it about as good, if not better than anyone else?" No one character should have be the best in the category for so many different categories. Just look at palpatine, before him the best AoE stun was Jawa, and that was for one specific class (droids) now palpatine has an equal chance to stun anyone for not only 1, but sometimes 2 turns. Then he also has the best basic damage in the game, arguably the best single debuff going along with it, the ability to heal all his health in one turn, offense up to the whole team, and godly turn meter gain. At some point you have to tally everything he does and realize how much characters he puts into irrelevancy because they do one of the same things just not as well.

I'm not saying these characters are OP because in this forum if you say that no matter how much evidence you bring the response is "just learn to play". Despite that I will say that these characters are definitely not balanced and you'd have to be crazy to not see that

"CaptainRex;822667" wrote:
The Gear Grind will kill this game before the power creep.

THIS

It's getting worth, can't wait to see nihlus with 10 abilities ,2 leads in one + 2 zeta =
a auto taunt/counter attack/300speed
+ a spell that dispel enemy buffs and dispel ally debuffs and gives offense/crit damage for 10turns.

You guys think I'm kidding but look at the difference between baze and jedi consular, if you look at the time between the two, we should have characters with 10abilities in one year from now if they keep the same scale for increasing new characters abilities/stats.

seriously if theres going to be release of new toon like chaze/chirut/tfp then what the point of all these that been working for year. well it might free some spcae on server though

This game is more balanced than it has ever been. Power creep is absolutely real, but this method of cycling in old characters with reworks and zetas is awesome. I feel like I have 6 or 7 different paths I can take to get where I want, and that is vastly different than 4 months ago. It's still poor compared to many other games, but it's come a long way recently.

I think zeta abilities really adds diversity, but till zeta is obtained it feels pretty unbalanced with many characters that are simply underpowered in arena, and raids, and only a handful of characters being widely used. And, it takes a long time till zetas are unlocked.

"Mzee;900228" wrote:
I think zeta abilities really adds diversity, but till zeta is obtained it feels pretty unbalanced with many characters that are simply underpowered in arena, and raids, and only a handful of characters being widely used. And, it takes a long time till zetas are unlocked.

There definitely needs to be more. But in my arena right now (April ish start?) the top 5 all have a different leader (Lando, Jyn, EP, Maul, Vader). Wedge and Boba are in the top 10. There is also a Cody, Teebo, and HK47 in the top 25. And that doesn't include Rex, QCJ, Kenobi, Finn, or Phasma lead teams that would be capable of taking the top spot.

When you consider all of the different characters in this game you can certainly argue that isn't enough, since some of those teams overlap a lot. While you can't say you can farm any character you want and be successful, I'd certainly say you can farm almost any faction you want and be successful. I've never felt that before.

"Bulldog1205;900331" wrote:

"Mzee;900228" wrote:
I think zeta abilities really adds diversity, but till zeta is obtained it feels pretty unbalanced with many characters that are simply underpowered in arena, and raids, and only a handful of characters being widely used. And, it takes a long time till zetas are unlocked.

There definitely needs to be more. But in my arena right now (April ish start?) the top 5 all have a different leader (Lando, Jyn, EP, Maul, Vader). Wedge and Boba are in the top 10. There is also a Cody, Teebo, and HK47 in the top 25. And that doesn't include Rex, QCJ, Kenobi, Finn, or Phasma lead teams that would be capable of taking the top spot.

When you consider all of the different characters in this game you can certainly argue that isn't enough, since some of those teams overlap a lot. While you can't say you can farm any character you want and be successful, I'd certainly say you can farm almost any faction you want and be successful. I've never felt that before.

Currently in my shard (I looked through it earlier today), in the top 50 38 teams had Wiggs (15 in the top 20). The rest was made up of 1 Jawa team, 1 Droid team (me), 1 or 2 Jedi teams, 1 bounty hunter team, and a few Empire teams. No clone teams (the only clone one swapped a couple clones out for Wiggs in the past week or 2, but still leads with rex). To me that is quite a lack of variety, particularly with how many different factions, and characters there are. And, this is a shard that has been going since July/August 2016. Older shards are reporting more variety, but I would like to see more variety all the way through. Most teams (except nightsisters) are indeed viable for top 100 at least, and maybe top 50, at least in a shard my age or younger, but if you want top 10 you are going to have to look at meta builds. When you obtain zetas you have more options for a top team, but this is just too much of a gap before zetas are obtained and teams become competitive.