Traya is really strong, although ZFinn RT Poe and Holdo pretty stomp over her. This does not take out that she has an incredible kit, and question is how CG is going to balance all this for the “long term health of the game”.

"Cossin;c-1529056" wrote:They don‘t!Otherwise they would have realized that a 50% nerf of expose makes no sense if the next raids has the double the hp again....They just go with the flow, release the next toons and in doubt, nerf old toons to make newer toons stronger and more valuable...Still my impression.... I bet Bossk will be a Sithraid Monster behind a massive pay/playwallHonestly from the information we have in hand I dont think that will be the case.With the rework of 4 and the addition of one new one through a marquee, I see the inevitable path as, we will see a legendary requiring BH. Bossk may be good in the raid, but he will be behind the same paywall as other marquee. With the cadence as stated there is no paywall that could be introduced beyond the ones already in place, unless a marquee is "required" for a legendary/hero event before he is farmable. But we have more than 5 BH already, so it may just be harder without him, but doable. Kinda like Thrawn, with the chopper/sabine debate.

"Neo2551;d-167192" wrote:Traya is really strong, although ZFinn RT Poe and Holdo pretty stomp over her. This does not take out that she has an incredible kit, and question is how CG is going to balance all this for the “long term health of the game”.Their bussiness model relies on a certain amount of power creep and not balancing everything. It's a well known strategy and CG have great success with it.

GK is still viable. When he was first getting unlocked I hated facing him and wanted to unlock him ASAP.Treyas kit looks crazy but as with everything time is the great leveler here. I know that’s probably the most hated answer on this forum but it is true.Also I think this when the forums shine: putting together teams that oppose the super op ones.

Traya has been unlocked for only a few days and I’m already tired of her. No one remembers KOTOR specifically for Traya, but now she is the best toon in the game hands down. Never have we seen a more blatant and overpowered counter to nearly every team in arena. A team can be overpowered, but there should always be a limit. A team with 3 toons should never be able to full auto another team on the same level. Traya is better than both CLS and RJT, 2 of the most exclusive and iconic characters in the game, and she is only a raid reward. We need an awesome reward for the sith raid, but this is too much. Once she is unlocked in a massive scale, all diversity in the game will be gone, and the teams that can win in offense will drop dozens of places overnight. “This is the end. We’re all doomed” -Sha’a Gi

"MoBlaq;c-1529150" wrote:I'm guessing BH(s) will roll her when they get their revampI thought they would be more PVE-esque. That’s a total guess though. If it’s any -it will be Bossk. I say the true counter will be with a Jedi pass.

Powercreep: how is swgoh handling it?

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VeeKnea
7 years ago
"MoBlaq;c-1529150" wrote:
I'm guessing BH(s) will roll her when they get their revamp

I thought they would be more PVE-esque. That’s a total guess though. If it’s any -it will be Bossk.
I say the true counter will be with a Jedi pass.
JacenRoe
7 years ago
"Georgemi6;c-1529143" wrote:
Never have we seen a more blatant and overpowered counter to nearly every team in arena.

Except Droids+Poe when the game first started... and Dooku lead with Rey shortly after... and Wegde+Biggs after that which eventually morphed into the Danger Zone squad... and the Palpatine meta that killed that off... and the Zaul meta that emerged after Zetas came out... and the triple cleanse that mostly killed that off... and the CLS+R2 meta that finished the job... and the JTR meta... and the most recent Zeta Palpatine meta.

So basically 90% of all major arena shifts have been OP, and gutted most other squads to some degree. Anyone remember Chirrut and Baze beating other meta teams 2 vs 5 with no leader ability? Yeah that wasn't fun. But we will adapt, survive, and overcome.
NyKynoe
7 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-1529156" wrote:
"Georgemi6;c-1529143" wrote:
Never have we seen a more blatant and overpowered counter to nearly every team in arena.

Except Droids+Poe when the game first started... and Dooku lead with Rey shortly after... and Wegde+Biggs after that which eventually morphed into the Danger Zone squad... and the Palpatine meta that killed that off... and the Zaul meta that emerged after Zetas came out... and the triple cleanse that mostly killed that off... and the CLS+R2 meta that finished the job... and the JTR meta... and the most recent Zeta Palpatine meta.

So basically 90% of all major arena shifts have been OP, and gutted most other squads to some degree. Anyone remember Chirrut and Baze beating other meta teams 2 vs 5 with no leader ability? Yeah that wasn't fun. But we will adapt, survive, and overcome.
Juli494
7 years ago
"Georgemi6;c-1529143" wrote:
Traya has been unlocked for only a few days and I’m already tired of her. No one remembers KOTOR specifically for Traya, but now she is the best toon in the game hands down. Never have we seen a more blatant and overpowered counter to nearly every team in arena. A team can be overpowered, but there should always be a limit. A team with 3 toons should never be able to full auto another team on the same level. Traya is better than both CLS and RJT, 2 of the most exclusive and iconic characters in the game, and she is only a raid reward. We need an awesome reward for the sith raid, but this is too much. Once she is unlocked in a massive scale, all diversity in the game will be gone, and the teams that can win in offense will drop dozens of places overnight. “This is the end. We’re all doomed” -Sha’a Gi

What? And what do you remember KOTOR 2 for? Bao Dur?
Waffandrord
7 years ago
"GreenGoblin96;c-1529189" wrote:
What? And what do you remember KOTOR 2 for? Bao Dur?

The most memorable character is hands down the Jedi disciple :p
emvedebe
7 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-1529156" wrote:
Anyone remember Chirrut and Baze beating other meta teams 2 vs 5 with no leader ability? Yeah that wasn't fun. But we will adapt, survive, and overcome.

loved that tbh and i still don't have baze.
VertigoBeast
7 years ago
"GreenGoblin96;c-1529189" wrote:
"Georgemi6;c-1529143" wrote:
Traya has been unlocked for only a few days and I’m already tired of her. No one remembers KOTOR specifically for Traya, but now she is the best toon in the game hands down. Never have we seen a more blatant and overpowered counter to nearly every team in arena. A team can be overpowered, but there should always be a limit. A team with 3 toons should never be able to full auto another team on the same level. Traya is better than both CLS and RJT, 2 of the most exclusive and iconic characters in the game, and she is only a raid reward. We need an awesome reward for the sith raid, but this is too much. Once she is unlocked in a massive scale, all diversity in the game will be gone, and the teams that can win in offense will drop dozens of places overnight. “This is the end. We’re all doomed” -Sha’a Gi

What? And what do you remember KOTOR 2 for? Bao Dur?

lol my boy Bao Dur. Kreia/Traya is arguably the most important character in KOTOR 2 other than the exile that you are playing as.
Waquira
7 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-1529156" wrote:

Except Droids+Poe when the game first started... and Dooku lead with Rey shortly after... and Wegde+Biggs after that which eventually morphed into the Danger Zone squad... and the Palpatine meta that killed that off...

Wiggs killed EP META — not the other way.

... but good point anyway.
Ikky2win
7 years ago
This isn’t like an mmo where you pay a monthly subscription. They WANT power creep in this game. That’s how they make money. Release a new Uber character that is stronger than the last one, making people want to spend money to get it. I’m not saying this is a good or bad thing, I’m just pointing out that it’s the business model they use, or at least part of it, and it’s the same business model nearly all games similar to this use. To maximize profit you need to keep releasing things people want to spend money on. New characters, new content that uses characters that weren’t used before, etc.
tuftedpaper85
7 years ago
"JacenRoe;c-1529156" wrote:
"Georgemi6;c-1529143" wrote:
Never have we seen a more blatant and overpowered counter to nearly every team in arena.

Except Droids+Poe when the game first started... and Dooku lead with Rey shortly after... and Wegde+Biggs after that which eventually morphed into the Danger Zone squad... and the Palpatine meta that killed that off... and the Zaul meta that emerged after Zetas came out... and the triple cleanse that mostly killed that off... and the CLS+R2 meta that finished the job... and the JTR meta... and the most recent Zeta Palpatine meta.

So basically 90% of all major arena shifts have been OP, and gutted most other squads to some degree. Anyone remember Chirrut and Baze beating other meta teams 2 vs 5 with no leader ability? Yeah that wasn't fun. But we will adapt, survive, and overcome.

Many of those metas weren't blatantly overpowered like traya appears to be. Dooku/Rey was more annoying than overpowered, and wiggs could be beat by droids, Rex, and Jedi teams.

Traya looks like she's similar to how chaze was but at least when chaze came out they also released zeta abilities at the same time, so people who were smart with farming zetas could keep in step. I don't see anything like that so far

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