Proving Grounds

"24_Tuesdays;c-2353772" wrote:

"twstdbydsn;c-2353768" wrote:
I need Maul shards now that I have the first 2. The end of August will be 1 year of that release. So will Maul be in Proving grounds then or will he hit a little earlier there since CAT was released towards the end of May and will already be in PG? I know the announcement was made saying her 1 year anniversary is here, so does that mean PG won't launch until end of May? Just need some clarification to plan accordingly if I still need to use crystals/conquest currency for Maul. @Ultra

conquest toons were announced as available via new method after one year

why would this affect maul

Maul was the 3rd Conquest toon.

"24_Tuesdays;c-2353771" wrote:

"zatho;c-2353766" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2353754" wrote:

"WookieWookie;c-2353747" wrote:
Seems like a slap in the face to those who purchased crystal refreshes/conquest passes to get the character maxed the first time they came around. I get hooking up those without, but this seems to indicate that those whoa are at the 'tip of the spear' will never get to experience this game mode, nor the rewards. @Kyno any way we could bring this up to the devs? It doesn't seem like it would crash their game economy to allow us who've paid/used crystals to finish the conquest characters on release to still be able to play the game mode and earn a pittance of shard shop currency each month.

How is it a slap in the face when they stated over a year ago that they would make these toons farmable after a year

Imho because they announced a new game mode (and many players are waiting for new stuff) just to tell folks that they can't play it if they got the characters already. Even without rewards we would like to experience a new mode. Just like we can replay fights in journey guide after we completed them.

yeah but everyone would just say this doesnt count as new stuff

people just complain about everything

cant play? why not

can play? not good enough

with that said i would play the new thing for ssc but i also dont care if i cant

I think it will be no new mode with regard to gameplay. It will just be a new type of event that disappears for end-game players. Usually you have to unlock stuff, here it will get locked.

Unpopular opinion likely, but if you wanted CAT by now P2P or F2P you would have her. This seems like a version of Galactic Bounties getting 20 shards per event. If you didn't fully participate in Conquest that was your choice and the lack of currency there hindered your farming of her. Everyone gets crystals regularly so how you spend them is entirely each persons choice to which if CAT was a priority she could have been farmed that way.

My main gripe would be allow those who do have her maxed out some sort of accessibility or rewards even if it were relic materials or something similar for already completing the journey.

"24_Tuesdays;c-2353772" wrote:

"twstdbydsn;c-2353768" wrote:
I need Maul shards now that I have the first 2. The end of August will be 1 year of that release. So will Maul be in Proving grounds then or will he hit a little earlier there since CAT was released towards the end of May and will already be in PG? I know the announcement was made saying her 1 year anniversary is here, so does that mean PG won't launch until end of May? Just need some clarification to plan accordingly if I still need to use crystals/conquest currency for Maul. @Ultra

assume pg will be launched in may

Yes, that IS my assumption, hence the reason I asked for clarification.

"GRANDOLA;c-2353779" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2353761" wrote:

"GRANDOLA;c-2353759" wrote:
Will this be used for new units in the future in place of marquee releases?

It’s for conquest characters

Ok, I mainly ask as they said some new characters may come through it as well.

They said "It is our intention to use Proving Grounds as a location for players to earn specific Units over time, but at the initial release Commander Ahsoka Tano and Razor Crest will be the two available Units." Not necessarily new ones.
At least Ultra "confirmed" it's just for conquest characters. But yeah it could be new ones down the line knowing CG. You never know with them since they don't follow up with info well and change drop rates unexpectedly. :p

"twstdbydsn;c-2353781" wrote:

"GRANDOLA;c-2353779" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2353761" wrote:

"GRANDOLA;c-2353759" wrote:
Will this be used for new units in the future in place of marquee releases?

It’s for conquest characters

Ok, I mainly ask as they said some new characters may come through it as well.

They said "It is our intention to use Proving Grounds as a location for players to earn specific Units over time, but at the initial release Commander Ahsoka Tano and Razor Crest will be the two available Units." Not necessarily new ones.
At least Ultra "confirmed" it's just for conquest characters. But yeah it could be new ones down the line knowing CG. You never know with them since they don't follow up with info well and change drop rates unexpectedly. :p

They also confuse characters (beskar armor) and mod slicing material

I'm not confirming anything for CG right now, since I haven't spoken to devs about anything

Just going by the same news post that you are all reading

" This is not meant to be a source for Shard Shop Currency, this is an opportunity to get characters that were once exclusive to Conquest."

Is why I said only conquest characters, but given the other quote you pulled up, I am inclined to believe we might have new character releases on proving grounds too... Wouldn't be surprised if they moved some marquee toons to Proving Grounds instead of LS/DS/Fleet/Cantina node at this point

"twstdbydsn;c-2353768" wrote:
I need Maul shards now that I have the first 2. The end of August will be 1 year of that release. So will Maul be in Proving grounds then or will he hit a little earlier there since CAT was released towards the end of May and will already be in PG? I know the announcement was made saying her 1 year anniversary is here, so does that mean PG won't launch until end of May? Just need some clarification to plan accordingly if I still need to use crystals/conquest currency for Maul.

Safe to speculate but who knows if CG will be following the timetable of this release schedule closely or not

"Ultra;c-2353783" wrote:
I'm not confirming anything for CG right now, since I haven't spoken to devs about anything

Just going by the same news post that you are all reading

" This is not meant to be a source for Shard Shop Currency, this is an opportunity to get characters that were once exclusive to Conquest."

Is why I said only conquest characters, but given the other quote you pulled up, I am inclined to believe we might have new character releases on proving grounds too... Wouldn't be surprised if they moved some marquee toons to Proving Grounds instead of LS/DS/Fleet/Cantina node at this point

"twstdbydsn;c-2353768" wrote:
I need Maul shards now that I have the first 2. The end of August will be 1 year of that release. So will Maul be in Proving grounds then or will he hit a little earlier there since CAT was released towards the end of May and will already be in PG? I know the announcement was made saying her 1 year anniversary is here, so does that mean PG won't launch until end of May? Just need some clarification to plan accordingly if I still need to use crystals/conquest currency for Maul.

Safe to speculate but who knows if CG will be following the timetable of this release schedule closely or not

When you SPECULATE you make a 'spec' out of 'u' and 'late'.

I'll just spend the currency/crystals for Maul I guess. He rarely shows in the store so August may be fine to get into PG.

"zatho;c-2353726" wrote:

"Morgoth01;c-2353725" wrote:

"Maul_never_dies;c-2353722" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2353704" wrote:

"Maul_never_dies;c-2353703" wrote:
330 shards for a character, and AFTER 1 YEAR WAITING CG gives us 20 shards per month.

So, after a toon release, you can play with the character for free in 29 month!
So 2 years and 4 month.

CG, stick your stuff you know where..

If you would consider refreshing P2P, then lets not forget, 5 sims a day is free with a 33% drop rate, and F2P are managing that just fine

So you don't see any difference between a 6 months farm (which f2p managing fine) and a 29 months farm (this CapitalGreediness).

No more questions needed.

How is this a 29 month farm though?
Are you basing that on 0 shards during the release conquest and 0 refresh of the proving grounds event?

With red box, which can be obtained F2P, it’s 3 months.
Depending on crate achieved it will be less than 17 months of proving grounds, with zero refresh.
You can save crystals F2P and that will cut down the time needed after the unit goes to proving grounds.
This really doesn’t seem that different from how legendary toons used to be released with a gated event every 3 months, which you needed to gear a bunch of toons for.

How long do you guess will it take if you started playing after it was in conquest crates (maybe because of a break) and didn't buy any shards?

Less than 29 months.
At the most, 23 months (arguably less), based on your assumption that the player was absent for the first 6 months of the toon being in conquest crates.
If the player in question actually prioritise the toon, crystals can be saved for refresh to cut down those 23 months quite a bit (how much is unknown as of yet).

Now the next question you would ask might be how long it would take a completely new F2P player to get the latest conquest toon? A very long time, but that is true for any end game toon in the game, including lots of legendaries and GLs.

If you have an overall concern about the length of getting a end game toon to 7* then fair. I just don’t see these conquest toons as super slow compared to most other releases of new toons.

I could be concerned if you can only play for one toon in PG, that would be a blow to mid-tier players with regards to catching up as they progress.

"Nauros;c-2353786" wrote:
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"Ultra;c-2353783" wrote:
I'm not confirming anything for CG right now, since I haven't spoken to devs about anything

Just going by the same news post that you are all reading

" This is not meant to be a source for Shard Shop Currency, this is an opportunity to get characters that were once exclusive to Conquest."

Is why I said only conquest characters, but given the other quote you pulled up, I am inclined to believe we might have new character releases on proving grounds too... Wouldn't be surprised if they moved some marquee toons to Proving Grounds instead of LS/DS/Fleet/Cantina node at this point

"twstdbydsn;c-2353768" wrote:
I need Maul shards now that I have the first 2. The end of August will be 1 year of that release. So will Maul be in Proving grounds then or will he hit a little earlier there since CAT was released towards the end of May and will already be in PG? I know the announcement was made saying her 1 year anniversary is here, so does that mean PG won't launch until end of May? Just need some clarification to plan accordingly if I still need to use crystals/conquest currency for Maul.

Safe to speculate but who knows if CG will be following the timetable of this release schedule closely or not

Putting marquees into PG instead of a hard node sounds terrible, way to make a slow and annoying grind even worse. Even without refreshes you should get more than 20 shards monthly from a hard node. So yeah, I fully expect them to do it.

It'll be like the fleet mastery events, a huge drain on crystal stash, so yeah