Proving Grounds

"Ultra;c-2363017" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2362997" wrote:
What's particularly galling is we all know that it might say R3 requirement but we also know it'll be balanced for R7s and/or GLs as that is what CG do.

At 4 million GP, you will have a GL or two (plus some R7s), so that should not be an issue

I do have SEE, but there are people with 4mil GP that don't have a GL. That being said, you're not exactly disagreeing with me on how it might be tuned!

"BobaFettish86;c-2363113" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363017" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2362997" wrote:
What's particularly galling is we all know that it might say R3 requirement but we also know it'll be balanced for R7s and/or GLs as that is what CG do.

At 4 million GP, you will have a GL or two (plus some R7s), so that should not be an issue

I do have SEE, but there are people with 4mil GP that don't have a GL. That being said, you're not exactly disagreeing with me on how it might be tuned!

I mean you have 200 characters to choose from to attempt proving grounds

Use terrible toons and r3 might not be good enough

Use meta teams and r3 might be overkill

The difficulty of the event is subjective to what toons you upgraded to r3

This is me disagreeing with your statement btw

"MrRandyWatson;c-2363036" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2363033" wrote:

"MrRandyWatson;c-2363032" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363017" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2362997" wrote:
What's particularly galling is we all know that it might say R3 requirement but we also know it'll be balanced for R7s and/or GLs as that is what CG do.

At 4 million GP, you will have a GL or two (plus some R7s), so that should not be an issue

I see you defending the GP requirement and I'd like to know what you think the harm is if a 1.5M GP player happens to have 5 R3 toons, completes PG (assume they can) and ends the month with a total of 20 CAT shards.

Do you believe allowing sub 4MGP players access to PG unbalances the game in some way?
This is why people are angry because its needlessly exclusionary.

It would further unbalance PVP at that level, because then only spenders would have CAT at 1.5M GP.

What's the difference between PG and a person that pays crystals/money to refresh the Endurance event today so they can unlock 7* Endurance earlier than their PVP opponents?

If someone pays to get the worst capital ship to 7* before their PvP opponents, they can do that I guess.

(If you mean Executor then I guess it makes sense, but there are differences - like the fact you can 7* Exec on the first event from packs if you have enough crystals.)

"Rius;c-2363141" wrote:
What are the GP restrictions on GAS, starkiller, GL’s and executor, is anything near 4M? Before the stealth addition there were no complaints since the announcement a month and a half ago.

A new player will need 2.5 -4 years to unlock CAT. That is ridiculous. You can have any other character in that time.

How about another option, return the old characters for an option in normal conquest. It’s pointless anyway as it will leave the 2M GP participants with a fraction of shards for all the hot characters released, but no way to actually unlock them. So why not leave it in rotation.

Anyone talking about balance, this was not an issue before when <4M GP were purchasing shards through crystal so why now?

There are no GP requirements. Plenty of players focusing SLKR get him between 1.5-1.8M. SEE and Rey are very doable in that range as well. Starkiller only requires four characters at R5 so you could probably get him around 1M GP (would not recommend).

"Ultra;c-2363128" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2363113" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363017" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2362997" wrote:
What's particularly galling is we all know that it might say R3 requirement but we also know it'll be balanced for R7s and/or GLs as that is what CG do.

At 4 million GP, you will have a GL or two (plus some R7s), so that should not be an issue

I do have SEE, but there are people with 4mil GP that don't have a GL. That being said, you're not exactly disagreeing with me on how it might be tuned!

I mean you have 200 characters to choose from to attempt proving grounds

Use terrible toons and r3 might not be good enough

Use meta teams and r3 might be overkill

The difficulty of the event is subjective to what toons you upgraded to r3

This is me disagreeing with your statement btw

I'm referring to the way they tune Galactic Challenges where you can have an awesome team at R7 and still get destroyed even below tier 10. That kind of tuning.

No need to try to be smart with me just to save face.

"BobaFettish86;c-2363157" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363128" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2363113" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363017" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2362997" wrote:
What's particularly galling is we all know that it might say R3 requirement but we also know it'll be balanced for R7s and/or GLs as that is what CG do.

At 4 million GP, you will have a GL or two (plus some R7s), so that should not be an issue

I do have SEE, but there are people with 4mil GP that don't have a GL. That being said, you're not exactly disagreeing with me on how it might be tuned!

I mean you have 200 characters to choose from to attempt proving grounds

Use terrible toons and r3 might not be good enough

Use meta teams and r3 might be overkill

The difficulty of the event is subjective to what toons you upgraded to r3

This is me disagreeing with your statement btw

I'm referring to the way they tune Galactic Challenges where you can have an awesome team at R7 and still get destroyed even below tier 10. That kind of tuning.

No need to try to be smart with me just to save face.

like i said that kind of tuning is impossible since you have 200+ characters to choose from

the GC is only difficult because you are using bad factions like inquisitor - try T10 of GC with GLs and let me know if awesome team at R7 get destroyed (any GL but SEE)

"StarSon;c-2363086" wrote:


No, buying shards with crystals is not the same as farmable. Spending guild currency or fleet currency on a character or ship is considered farmable.

I don't know what 188 CAT shards you're talking about. And they didn't say "more farmable" they said "more available."

Are you intentionally being obtuse?

You could buy CAT with Conquest Tickets, this is the same as Guild or Fleet currency & not the same as Crystals.

Obviously he's talking about how he has 188 CAT shards farmed so far.

And if its ONLY available to 4 Mil+ accounts and previously was available to 1 Mil+ accounts then that is NOT MORE available.

"Ultra;c-2363161" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2363157" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363128" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2363113" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363017" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2362997" wrote:
What's particularly galling is we all know that it might say R3 requirement but we also know it'll be balanced for R7s and/or GLs as that is what CG do.

At 4 million GP, you will have a GL or two (plus some R7s), so that should not be an issue

I do have SEE, but there are people with 4mil GP that don't have a GL. That being said, you're not exactly disagreeing with me on how it might be tuned!

I mean you have 200 characters to choose from to attempt proving grounds

Use terrible toons and r3 might not be good enough

Use meta teams and r3 might be overkill

The difficulty of the event is subjective to what toons you upgraded to r3

This is me disagreeing with your statement btw

I'm referring to the way they tune Galactic Challenges where you can have an awesome team at R7 and still get destroyed even below tier 10. That kind of tuning.

No need to try to be smart with me just to save face.

like i said that kind of tuning is impossible since you have 200+ characters to choose from

the GC is only difficult because you are using bad factions like inquisitor - try T10 of GC with GLs and let me know if awesome team at R7 get destroyed (any GL but SEE)

Since I only have SEE at present (see previous post) and am working towards JML, I will have to take your word for it. But there has been some GCs lately where my R8 SEE has struggled to win. And there's no point trying to blame my mods as I very rarely lose to other SEEs or JML.

I don't put anything past CG when it comes to tuning their own game.

"Rius;c-2363155" wrote:

"Dianora;c-2363145" wrote:

"Rius;c-2363141" wrote:
What are the GP restrictions on GAS, starkiller, GL’s and executor, is anything near 4M? Before the stealth addition there were no complaints since the announcement a month and a half ago.

A new player will need 2.5 -4 years to unlock CAT. That is ridiculous. You can have any other character in that time.

How about another option, return the old characters for an option in normal conquest. It’s pointless anyway as it will leave the 2M GP participants with a fraction of shards for all the hot characters released, but no way to actually unlock them. So why not leave it in rotation.

Anyone talking about balance, this was not an issue before when <4M GP were purchasing shards through crystal so why now?

There are no GP requirements. Plenty of players focusing SLKR get him between 1.5-1.8M. SEE and Rey are very doable in that range as well. Starkiller only requires four characters at R5 so you could probably get him around 1M GP (would not recommend).

So I really do not understand the balance or exclusivity arguments for 4M, maybe 2M which is the normal conquest requirement anyway. It’s already a long grind from normal conquest, characters should be achievable still.

There's no GP requirement for normal, just have to beat Easy which is um... easy. I was getting chest 3 of Normal at 1M GP.

"Schwartzring;c-2363164" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2363086" wrote:


No, buying shards with crystals is not the same as farmable. Spending guild currency or fleet currency on a character or ship is considered farmable.

I don't know what 188 CAT shards you're talking about. And they didn't say "more farmable" they said "more available."

Are you intentionally being obtuse?

You could buy CAT with Conquest Tickets, this is the same as Guild or Fleet currency & not the same as Crystals.

Obviously he's talking about how he has 188 CAT shards farmed so far.

And if its ONLY available to 4 Mil+ accounts and previously was available to 1 Mil+ accounts then that is NOT MORE available.

No. Assuming CAT always showed up in the store, how many shards could you buy each month if you spent currency only on CAT?