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2 years ago

Raid rewards comparison with data

So I did the math on the old system vs. the new. For the record I am in a 500 million gp guild. These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an avera...
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"Robre;c-2420374" wrote:
You are forgetting guild currency which is a significant loss. Also the shards that helped feed the shard shop. Losing 18 Million credits per month is brutal. Especially when you are working on mods.



I took all get and guild currency and spent that on gear, just like the new guild tokens in this scenario.

You can buy credits with MK1 currency, and it includes the shard shop conversion.

"Gawejn;c-2420388" wrote:
This is not really correct. We were doing more raids than 10 pit, it was 12. Max was 15. And not including gear from boxes plus get 1 and get 2, mods materials and full pieces makes this data not real.


I was trying to base the old data off of a lower number of raid attempts, since some guilds do less.

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These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an average of 5th-10th place for Sith and Cpit.

New raid numbers are based on 130 million guild crate, and 4.5 million personal crate.

I undervalued the old gear boxes since finding data on those is sketchy.

Old rewards
18.7 million credits
1.4 million ship credits
35 aeromagnifiers
1836 carbanti level gear
42 kyros
And all gear in boxes (240 carbanti level and 110 fusion furnace level based on very low numbers)

New rewards
38.5 aeromagnifiers (mk3 currency)
632 fusion furnace or equivalent (mk2 currency)
3852 carbanti level gear (mk1 currency)

So the long story short, is for this situation:

Mk1 currency is slightly better rewards
Mk2 currency is about the same
Mk3 currency is about the same

But, if you make less than those crates, which a lot of guilds will, it is not a good value. Anything less than 130 million guild crate deletes the aeromagnifier level mk3 tokens.

So any guild that could do cpit, but does not get the above rewards is suffering.

Hopefully we will see a change","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2023-05-06T03:38:01.000+01:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:raids","text":"raids","time":"2016-04-29T09:08:49.000+01:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3935064_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":7653},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"So I did the math on the old system vs. the new. For the record I am in a 500 million gp guild.

These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an average of 5th-10th place for Sith and Cpit.

New raid numbers are based on 130 million guild crate, and 4.5 million personal crate.

I undervalued the old gear boxes since finding data on those is sketchy.

Old rewards
18.7 million credits
1.4 million ship credits
35 aeromagnifiers
1836 carbanti level gear
42 kyros
And all gear in boxes (240 carbanti level and 110 fusion furnace level based on very low numbers)

New rewards
38.5 aeromagnifiers (mk3 currency)
632 fusion furnace or equivalent (mk2 currency)
3852 carbanti level gear (mk1 currency)

So the long story short, is for this situation:

Mk1 currency is slightly better rewards
Mk2 currency is about the same
Mk3 currency is about the same

But, if you make less than those crates, which a lot of guilds will, it is not a good value. Anything less than 130 million guild crate deletes the aeromagnifier level mk3 tokens.

So any guild that could do cpit, but does not get the above rewards is suffering.

Hopefully we will see a change"},"Conversation:conversation:3935064":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3935064","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3935064"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-05-19T05:42:54.000+01:00","lastPostTime":"2023-05-19T05:42:54.000+01:00","unreadReplyCount":102,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3935064":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3935064","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3935064_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3935064_1","lastEditTime":"2023-05-06T03:38:01.000+01:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3935075":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3935075","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3935064"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:63601"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3935075,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Raid rewards comparison with data","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3935075"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3935064"},"body":"
\"Robre;c-2420374\" wrote:
You are forgetting guild currency which is a significant loss. Also the shards that helped feed the shard shop. Losing 18 Million credits per month is brutal. Especially when you are working on mods.



I took all get and guild currency and spent that on gear, just like the new guild tokens in this scenario.

You can buy credits with MK1 currency, and it includes the shard shop conversion.

\"Gawejn;c-2420388\" wrote:
This is not really correct. We were doing more raids than 10 pit, it was 12. Max was 15. And not including gear from boxes plus get 1 and get 2, mods materials and full pieces makes this data not real.


I was trying to base the old data off of a lower number of raid attempts, since some guilds do less.
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\"Robre;c-2420374\" wrote:
You are forgetting guild currency which is a significant loss. Also the shards that helped feed the shard shop. Losing 18 Million credits per month is brutal. Especially when you are working on mods.



I took all get and guild currency and spent that on gear, just like the new guild tokens in this scenario.

You can buy credits with MK1 currency, and it includes the shard shop conversion.

\"Gawejn;c-2420388\" wrote:
This is not really correct. We were doing more raids than 10 pit, it was 12. Max was 15. And not including gear from boxes plus get 1 and get 2, mods materials and full pieces makes this data not real.


I was trying to base the old data off of a lower number of raid attempts, since some guilds do less.
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