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"BubbaFett;c-1555966" wrote:"Corrog;c-1555959" wrote:"BubbaFett;c-1555951" wrote:"Vendi1983;c-1555946" wrote:
And a bonus against Sith...
He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
He failed against Sidious.. said so himself.....
He should have killed Dooku.... That would have saved more than two Jedi, because the battle of geonosis would never have happened... Plus, if annakin would have died, mace would have killed Palpatine.....
You can argue that he failed against Sidious, especially since he said so himself, but I'll maintain he had Sidious beaten, but somehow didn't realize it. Sidious won the mental fight, Yoda won the physical fight, imho.
But Dooku it's pretty clear, he only escaped because Yoda let him. Yoda decided it would be better to save Obi and Anakin, for better or worse. That doesn't mean Dooku won, it means Yoda couldn't achieve every objective so he prioritised.
"Ephran;c-1555971" wrote:
Dooku was trying to get the heck out of Dodge, his only goal in those fights was to get away. Yoda's only goal in that duel was to stop Dooku. They fought to a standstill (after Dooku had already easily beaten Anakin and Kenobi) and Dooku fled. That's a decisive victory for Dooku.
I didn't see it that way. To me, Dooku was trying to escape, while Yoda was trying to rescue Obi and Anakin. Both had side objectives (beat Yoda and kill the Jedi, beat Dooku and capture him), but those weren't the priority. They fought with the Force, and neither had an edge. They then duel, and Yoda had a clear edge. Dooku was never going to be able to match Yoda, so he retreated. Both accomplished their main objective, neither fully accomplished their side objective. But Yoda wasn't the one who gave up on the duel. Therefore Yoda at least accomplished half of his side objective, he beat Dooku. He just didn't capture him.
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