Rey update

Counter attackers as a group are weak and cg just made them weaker while buffing an already strong toon. Weird way to balance a game.

"Abyss;202771" wrote:
To me it makes no dif. Ya'll can argue the wording all you want.
My question is......
Is this buff of Rey (its a buff guised as a "fix" dont kid yourself) good for the game?

I think the answer is easily NO its not good for the game. Rey is the best toon in her "class" as is, an they are making her better

Not a buff, a bug fix.

"HershBathens;202776" wrote:
Counter attackers as a group are weak and cg just made them weaker while buffing an already strong toon. Weird way to balance a game.

Not a buff, bug fix.

"grandmaster1985;202782" wrote:
Nerf Rey you nerfed Burris so nerf rey

She doesn't deserve a nerf. She isn't OP. I killed a 6* Rey yesterday before she got a chance to attack. If you're having trouble then adapt your play style.

"cosmicturtle333;202792" wrote:
I killed a 6* Rey yesterday before she got a chance to attack. If you're having trouble then adapt your play style.

This is a bit simplistic coming from you, turtle?
I mean you can say that about anything. People pulled the lame old "L2P nub" crap when all of arena was "Poe vs. Poe" too.
When you face a team with 3 or 4 one-shotters, "kill her before she can attack" isn't going to work is it?
I won't say for sure if Rey is OP or not. But she's definitely in the upper echelons power-wise. Whatever you want to call this change, it increases her viability because there's no penalty for missing low when attacking a counter-attacker.
In general, glass cannons dominate arena and counter-attackers are scarce (except Dooku). This isn't a move in the right direction.

"Galgenstrick;202575" wrote:

There was a contradiction in her flurry of blows description. It says "attacks 3 times" which means it should trigger assists once per attack with phasma, and each hit should be dodged separate, just like Dooku. Since this obviously isn't the case, they either had to buff her to make her attacks work like Dooku, or they had to buff her like they did. Just wish she had a chance to stun like Dooku...

This wasn't an important problem that needed fixing, and the "fix" overall puts the game in a worse place than it was before, IMO.

"Qeltar;202821" wrote:

"cosmicturtle333;202792" wrote:
I killed a 6* Rey yesterday before she got a chance to attack. If you're having trouble then adapt your play style.

This is a bit simplistic coming from you, turtle?
I mean you can say that about anything. People pulled the lame old "L2P nub" crap when all of arena was "Poe vs. Poe" too.
When you face a team with 3 or 4 one-shotters, "kill her before she can attack" isn't going to work is it?
I won't say for sure if Rey is OP or not. But she's definitely in the upper echelons power-wise. Whatever you want to call this change, it increases her viability because there's no penalty for missing low when attacking a counter-attacker.
In general, glass cannons dominate arena and counter-attackers are scarce (except Dooku). This isn't a move in the right direction.

+1

The multi-counter was unintended to begin with, an unfortunate result of Counter Attacks being determined per damage effect, rather than per attack. Thankfully, there's an override for that, so only the first hit can trigger Counter Attacks now. Considering that you still only need to succeed a single Evasion check to avoid all the hits, it only seemed fair that you only got one Counter, too.

"CG_Method;202837" wrote:
The multi-counter was unintended to begin with, an unfortunate result of Counter Attacks being determined per damage effect, rather than per attack. Thankfully, there's an override for that, so only the first hit can trigger Counter Attacks now. Considering that you still only need to succeed a single Evasion check to avoid all the hits, it only seemed fair that you only got one Counter, too.

Thanks, welcome to the forum Mr Method.

"CG_Method;202837" wrote:
The multi-counter was unintended to begin with, an unfortunate result of Counter Attacks being determined per damage effect, rather than per attack. Thankfully, there's an override for that, so only the first hit can trigger Counter Attacks now. Considering that you still only need to succeed a single Evasion check to avoid all the hits, it only seemed fair that you only got one Counter, too.

Thats not the point lol. The point is that she was more then powerful enough as she was. This "fix" makes her stronger (more viable due to opening up her atk potential to all counter attackers where as before, one had to choose carefully).

"Qeltar;202821" wrote:

"cosmicturtle333;202792" wrote:
I killed a 6* Rey yesterday before she got a chance to attack. If you're having trouble then adapt your play style.

This is a bit simplistic coming from you, turtle?
I mean you can say that about anything. People pulled the lame old "L2P nub" crap when all of arena was "Poe vs. Poe" too.
When you face a team with 3 or 4 one-shotters, "kill her before she can attack" isn't going to work is it?
I won't say for sure if Rey is OP or not. But she's definitely in the upper echelons power-wise. Whatever you want to call this change, it increases her viability because there's no penalty for missing low when attacking a counter-attacker.
In general, glass cannons dominate arena and counter-attackers are scarce (except Dooku). This isn't a move in the right direction.

When someone posts this: 'Nerf Rey you nerfed Burris so nerf rey' I don't think their opinion matters very much.

If someone complains about GS I can empathize. He is fast, has a lot of health and deals a lot of damage. But Rey has almost no health at all. My weak Nightsisters can destroy her, so surely other heroes can destroy her too.

"CG_Method;202837" wrote:
The multi-counter was unintended to begin with, an unfortunate result of Counter Attacks being determined per damage effect, rather than per attack. Thankfully, there's an override for that, so only the first hit can trigger Counter Attacks now. Considering that you still only need to succeed a single Evasion check to avoid all the hits, it only seemed fair that you only got one Counter, too.

First, thanks for posting on the forums, appreciate having devs here.
I think we can all agree that this makes sense from a logical standpoint. The problem is that it further tilts the power balance towards characters like Rey that are extremely powerful and widely used, and away from counter-attackers, which aren't.
There are a zillion things that need to be addressed in the game. Was this really a priority, especially given Rey's status in the meta?
I guess the real question is: when, oh when, will the "speed+DPS is all that matters" design be modified so there is more variety in viable builds? People would care less about this if they weren't basically forced to one-shot her before she one-shots all your own guys. The one-shotting is the problem.