Rey update

It's clear the devs don't really prioritize balance when "fixing" these issues just as we saw with Ventress. Instead of fixing the wording, they nerfed Strike Fear just because they felt it wasn't how it was supposed to work.

I wish the devs (and others here) would realize not all things unintentional are bad just because, and take balance into consideration when making changes to something that wasn't braking the game.

Call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day this bug fix is a buff. Period.

"J7000;202857" wrote:
For along time I let crys get on my nerves in this game but I've come to the position that no matter what happens I'll adapt and overcome while others are still crying. This one change does not change my position that if I had to pick between GS and Rey GS would be on my team before her. I know others in this thread ain't saying squat about GS but have a lot to say about Rey. Perhaps, just perhaps, their motivations aren't as legit as they present them ;)

GS has nothing to do with this topic is why i didnt mention him. If u want, we can discuss GS also lol

Lots of people complained about Daka because she isn't supposed to resurrect herself.

They fixed this bug and now she is working as the description states.

Rey's in game description did not align with the in game results.

They fixed this bug and now she is working as the description states.

Let's not be hypocrites here.

My Asajj has had her party heal removed. This is sad, but it was right. My Daka has had her self rez removed. This is sad, but it was right.

Rey has had the incorrect counter attacks removed, you may think this is bad (either for the game or for you personally) but it is still right.

"cosmicturtle333;202874" wrote:

My Asajj has had her party heal removed. This is sad, but it was right.

The response to this was nearly universal that it was a bad change, and for pretty much the same reason as this one with Rey, only the opposite. With Asajj, an unintentional side effect that actually improved game balance by giving an underused character a reason to exist was removed, reducing viability. With Rey, an unintentional side effect that improved game balance by providing a slight detriment is being removed, giving more power to a character that doesn't need it.

If GS was somehow bugged and was not performing as he was supposed to, then they fixed a bug that made him stronger I would be saying the exact same thing.

Whether that is good or bad for the game is one discussion, whether that is a bug fix or a buff is what you need to understand first.

"cosmicturtle333;202874" wrote:
Lots of people complained about Daka because she isn't supposed to resurrect herself.

They fixed this bug and now she is working as the description states.

Rey's in game description did not align with the in game results.

They fixed this bug and now she is working as the description states.

Let's not be hypocrites here.

My Asajj has had her party heal removed. This is sad, but it was right. My Daka has had her self rez removed. This is sad, but it was right.

Rey has had the incorrect counter attacks removed, you may think this is bad (either for the game or for you personally) but it is still right.

You realize that the Daka and Asajj case were only bugs because it didn't go with the description, right? It could have also been corrected by changing the description to match the ability. I see no absolute reason to only do it one way as if the original ability descriptions came from some holy scriptures that we must not alter.

"Qeltar;202882" wrote:

"cosmicturtle333;202874" wrote:

My Asajj has had her party heal removed. This is sad, but it was right.

The response to this was nearly universal that it was a bad change, and for pretty much the same reason as this one with Rey, only the opposite. With Asajj, an unintentional side effect that actually improved game balance by giving an underused character a reason to exist was removed, reducing viability. With Rey, an unintentional side effect that improved game balance by providing a slight detriment is being removed, giving more power to a character that doesn't need it.

It was bad for the game, it reduced her viability.

But we can't be hypocrites. We can't pick and choose which bugs we want fixed and which ones we want to remain in the game.

I can't say 'You nerfed my Asajj, why did you do that? It's bad for the game.'

Just as you shouldn't say 'You buffed Rey, why did you do that? It's bad for the game.'

"cosmicturtle333;202887" wrote:
If GS was somehow bugged and was not performing as he was supposed to, then they fixed a bug that made him stronger I would be saying the exact same thing.

These descriptions are not handed down on stone tablets. They can be changed as readily -- actually, more readily -- than the character abilities can be.

"cosmicturtle333;202887" wrote:

Whether that is good or bad for the game is one discussion, whether that is a bug fix or a buff is what you need to understand first.

This is a "bug fix" because the dev says it's a bug fix. There was nothing inherent in the ability or the multiple counters that made it seem like a bug to me, nor any obvious contradiction with the description (as was the case with Ventress). Obviously the devs determine what is intended and make changes accordingly, but this is not actually the right place for the "buff" / "nerf" / "bug fix" high horse.

"CG_Method;202837" wrote:
The multi-counter was unintended to begin with, an unfortunate result of Counter Attacks being determined per damage effect, rather than per attack. Thankfully, there's an override for that, so only the first hit can trigger Counter Attacks now. Considering that you still only need to succeed a single Evasion check to avoid all the hits, it only seemed fair that you only got one Counter, too.

Thank you and @cosmicturtle333 even @Rogan_Ban84. My inquiring mind can now rest for the day!

"Heisen;202895" wrote:

"cosmicturtle333;202874" wrote:
Lots of people complained about Daka because she isn't supposed to resurrect herself.

They fixed this bug and now she is working as the description states.

Rey's in game description did not align with the in game results.

They fixed this bug and now she is working as the description states.

Let's not be hypocrites here.

My Asajj has had her party heal removed. This is sad, but it was right. My Daka has had her self rez removed. This is sad, but it was right.

Rey has had the incorrect counter attacks removed, you may think this is bad (either for the game or for you personally) but it is still right.

You realize that the Daka and Asajj case were only bugs because it didn't go with the description, right? It could have also been corrected by changing the description to match the ability. I see no absolute reason to only do it one way as if the original ability descriptions came from some holy scriptures that we must not alter.

I agree. In fact I specifically said once the news that Daka was being fixed arose that "It would be easier to change her description rather than fixing the bug. Just saying."

But now that is has happened I won't complain. She will now work as the devs intended her to, just like Rey.