Savage-Maul synergy

No.

The Sith are probably the strongest faction in the game and Maul and Savage not only have zeta abilities, they have two of the top 5 zeta abilities.

If the game were being designed from scratch, I would agree. As it is, you can't take anything away from either of them or people will scream bloody murder. But if you add something without taking anything away, you're just making two of the strongest toons in the game - both from the strongest faction in the game - that much more powerful.

Again, no.

Plot wise, it's a great idea. Characterization wise, it's a great idea. For this game as it exists, it's an absolutely horrible idea. When all the other factions catch up to the Sith, then maybe you can contemplate this bit of power-creep. In the meantime, I vote no. A thousand times no.

@MasterSeedy understandable. I just want some more sith taunters. Especially ones with high health and protection, such and Trooper and Savage. Also I use an all sith team the most, so you could see why I'd want them to be stronger than they already are.

"Boreas;c-1159780" wrote:

"MasterSeedy;c-1159664" wrote:
No.

The Sith are probably the strongest faction in the game and Maul and Savage not only have zeta abilities, they have two of the top 5 zeta abilities.

If the game were being designed from scratch, I would agree. As it is, you can't take anything away from either of them or people will scream bloody murder. But if you add something without taking anything away, you're just making two of the strongest toons in the game - both from the strongest faction in the game - that much more powerful.

Again, no.

Plot wise, it's a great idea. Characterization wise, it's a great idea. For this game as it exists, it's an absolutely horrible idea. When all the other factions catch up to the Sith, then maybe you can contemplate this bit of power-creep. In the meantime, I vote no. A thousand times no.

Sith are not the strongest faction in this game, it's just that all of them have become useful in one way or another. I don't care about a Savage/Maul synergy, since I never improved Maul and never used him, but when we consider Wiggs, Chaze or R2 giving everything to almost all light-side toons, that idea is not horrible at all. I agree that power creep won't solve a thing, so it's better to fix other OP synergies. If not, then asking for a Savage - Maul synergy is only fair.

Thank you!

"MasterSeedy;c-1159664" wrote:
No.

The Sith are probably the strongest faction in the game and Maul and Savage not only have zeta abilities, they have two of the top 5 zeta abilities.

Let's keep in mind that Maul's zeta is for his leader ability, which becomes pointless if he's not being used as the leader, which I don't use him as. And a lot of other people don't either.

@LGuy_21

Let's keep in mind that Maul's zeta is for his leader ability, which becomes pointless if he's not being used as the leader,

Fair enough.

Still, I think it's pretty clear that depending on how you judge the power of factions (average power of each member of the faction OR total power of the whole faction which means that 5 strong toons + 50 bad toons is better than 10-15 good toons even though you can never use more than 5 at a time) Sith is either the strongest faction or the 2nd strongest, next to Rebels who do have some very strong toons, but also have many more terrible toons while the Sith have no terrible toons.

Based on that I would rather focus on other factions. Strengthening characters that are already very powerful is also low on my priority list, and thus also makes me wary of recommending EA spend time on giving synergies to Maul and Savage.

If you could find a way to strengthen Savage before Zeta without strengthening him at/after zeta (whether or not the strengthening involved Maul synergy), that might be fine. He's really pretty average at mid-to-high levels without zeta, and below average at low-to-mid levels. But even though I'd be okay with it, that doesn't mean I support spending time trying to tweak him when that work could go so many other more productive places.

More than anything, I'd like to see First Order, Resistance, and especially NightSisters get some new toons, and I'd like any new toons which do come out to be at least net-balanced gender wise so you don't get a trend of an already gender-skewed set of toons become even more gender-skewed.

Finally, see also the discussion about how and why certain toons ended up with Synergy while others didn't (in particular Wiggs and Chaze vs. Vader/EP and Maul/Savage).