SEE definitely needs a buff!

"Shiryu;c-2183761" wrote:

"TargetEadu;c-2183759" wrote:
Can someone explain to me how Sith revolve around Health and therefore SEE’s 50% Protection regen is bad? Besides Malak?

I would think that a faction that contains a large amount of health recovery would benefit more from a form of protection recovery, instead of yet another health-based ability.

The health recovery is most prominent if Treya or EP are leads. DR has tons of life steal and health ONLY if he's lead and has Fallen bast with him. Most often then not they need something to restore themselves so when you have treya pegging all the sith for 5% their life to remove debuffs they just dont die from it. This is most noticeable with DN and his massively stacking health. Prot recovery does jack all for him. It get's to a point where the 5% to remove just a single debuff will destroy his entire protection bar. SET and Treya put protection UP on himself / treyas target respectively which are based on THEIR HEALTH TOTALS. Treya gains prot up when any ally gets debuffed... again based on her health total.

Now Im not saying the prot recovery is bad, and its a nice addition... but when an entire faction revolves around messing with health, and SEE is suppose to be the best of that faction... maybe he should work better with the faction he is suppose to represent. Sid worked on health. EP was about messing and restoring health when sith debuffed enemies.

But no. his kit screws over the best two tanks (malak and sion). DN just kinda dies cause why would you use him without at least treya. DR bast and the other sith gain nothing from his lead (no dmg, health, meaningful stats).

So, Sith are only Health-based under the right leads. SEE is not one of those leads.

I’d much rather have 50% Protection recovery than 50% Health recovery. Under SEE lead, it doesn’t make that big of a difference, as there’s little alternative healing in current teams. Under Traya or EP lead (has anyone tried this?), it’s much more likely to actually matter while their respective leads keep the Sith mostly topped off on health. And in both cases it helps out sooner than Health healing will.

Malak and somewhat Nihilus are valid objections, but Malak’s always run fine with his own healing from Drain Life / Health Steal, and Nihilus is really only in danger from debuff-heavy teams that aren’t Vader (as Dots would deal 5% Health damage anyway).