Self preservation zeta for sith raid

"leef;c-1585581" wrote:
Assuming you are correct about the zeta preventing the negative effects when using a basic while you’re debuffed with defence down its still situational at best since it just doesnt happen often that you’re forced to use a basic with def down.
For all intents and purposes it doesnt improve survivability. Both nihilus (the main dmg dealer) en Sith assassin ignore protection. So the only times you can actually take dmg to your protection are when Sith assassin isnt stealthed and attacks and when Sith Marauder attacks. Those are the only attacks that could potentially cause you to lose Health where as you wouldnt have if you had more protection due to the R2zeta. Easily prevented by bb8’s protection recovery and/or simply not letting them take turns. Basically for normal play it simply doesnt improve survivability. If it does, you can improve your score way more by changing the way you play than by zeta-ing R2. So Yes, technically it can improve survivability, but during normal play it just doesnt and your characters just die with protection.
As for increased offence, again under the same assumption, it does improve your score. Since its situational at best i’d reckon the difference isnt even noticable. If it adds more than 5% on average i’d be suprised. Feel free to give an estimate yourself, i for one am curious how much you think it adds since you’re recommending the zeta for p1.
Bb8’s second zeta adds way more to the team than r2’s. This is a judgement call on a fact, not an opinion. It either does or doesn’t, whether i’m capable of judging it correctly is a different matter.
If i remember and i’m able to be online during p1 i’ll test if you’re correct about preventing the negative effects of basic-ing with def down.

Personally, I'd say that if you aren't killing the adds with R2's AoE, you are wasting actions taking out adds when you could be doing more damage to Nihilus himself. And since, as you say, that protection is worthless any other way, that means wasted damage. Also Sith Assassin only ignores protection with her special attack when stealthed. Her basic never ignores protection.

As for the % increase in damage from R2's cleanse, I'd say about 1 out of every 3 or 4 attacks on Nihilus is a basic while you have defense down at which point he gains enough protection to negate a hit, so something like 25-33%% more damage is what you should be getting by having R2's combat analysis zetad.


R2's combat analysis is, without a doubt, AMAZING for this phase of the raid. It adds more to this team than any other zeta period, though Rey's leader ability is a close second.