Goodness. For at least two or three months before I 7* DN and a few other 20 energy nodes I only spent on 20's. During the same time period I was auto-ing challenges or throwing in DN and annihilating boss. Right now currently I need speed mods because I want to solo P4 Haat. Based on your simple math I'll come out ahead 10 sims max. Wow. So I don't spend any regular energy then? Or I should have to auto those too? I wasn't looking for advice on how to obtain the things. I'd very clearly stated that. I missed launch by a couple weeks and am very proud to be closing in on 70 7* toons and 10million tank damage. I understand how to play this game. Every players experience is unique to them. Like I said, feast or famine. I've tried all of these wonderful suggestions that I specifically asked not to receive and for me they were unsuccessful. I've done lots of homework on this topic before posting and my guild seems split down the middle. Half never have any and the other half have thousands. It's a definite oddity and I would get a tremendous amount more enjoyment if I didn't have to auto 20+ battles every day