So, now that we're making a distinction between "Sith" and "Sith Empire" (which honestly, I feel like is a good change), and after reading the latest post from @CG_SBCrumb, I'm curious about what exactly the distinction is.Going off Bastila and HK, Bastila has both tags and HK only has "Sith Empire." So I can only assume that "Sith Empire" is anyone affiliated with the Sith Empire, while "Sith" is reserved for those who are force sensitive and trained in the Dark Side--basically, those who follow the Sith way, not just fight on their behalf.If this is indeed the case, then it makes perfect sense for Darth Revan, Fallen Bastila, Sith Marauder, and Sith Assassin to all have both tags, and it also makes sense for HK-47 to only have the Sith Empire tag.Things get confusing to me, however, when we consider Sith Trooper. By the reasoning above, Sith Trooper should actually LOSE the "Sith" tag when he gains the "Sith Empire" tag. He belongs in the same category as HK-47. But Crumb didn't say anything about anyone (except Fallen Bastila) losing any existing tags.What gives CG? Is Sith Trooper going to lose the "Sith" tag? And if not, why in the world not?

Why is it weird for a toon to have both Sith and Dith empire? It's almost identical to Palp and Vader who are both Sith AND regular Empire.

"Riffinator;c-1809099" wrote:Why is it weird for a toon to have both Sith and Dith empire? It's almost identical to Palp and Vader who are both Sith AND regular Empire.If you read what I actually said, it's NOT weird at all, except for Sith Trooper. Because he wasn't a follower of the teachings of the Sith. Just a soldier, kinda like HK. Makes sense for everyone else.

You're absolutely right. Trooper should, logically, lose the Sith tag. Just like HK's leader ability shouldn't just have been nerfed, it should have been removed. But we don't always get what makes narrative sense.

Remembers they reworded trooper to work with the triumvirate team when Scion dropped last year. That's probably part of their reasoning for not removing his tag even though he is not technically a Sith and was just a solider in the Sith Empire.

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riffinator24
New Spectator
6 years ago
Why is it weird for a toon to have both Sith and Dith empire? It's almost identical to Palp and Vader who are both Sith AND regular Empire.
Yerff_Caasi
6 years ago
"Riffinator;c-1809099" wrote:
Why is it weird for a toon to have both Sith and Dith empire? It's almost identical to Palp and Vader who are both Sith AND regular Empire.

If you read what I actually said, it's NOT weird at all, except for Sith Trooper. Because he wasn't a follower of the teachings of the Sith. Just a soldier, kinda like HK. Makes sense for everyone else.
CazNeerg
6 years ago
You're absolutely right. Trooper should, logically, lose the Sith tag. Just like HK's leader ability shouldn't just have been nerfed, it should have been removed. But we don't always get what makes narrative sense.
the11plegue
6 years ago
Remembers they reworded trooper to work with the triumvirate team when Scion dropped last year. That's probably part of their reasoning for not removing his tag even though he is not technically a Sith and was just a solider in the Sith Empire.
riffinator24
New Spectator
6 years ago
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Namenew7896
6 years ago
Guess it's for balancing reasons. Otherwise there'd be a bunch of people crying about how their trooper lost synergy with Traya. Given how well established the sith trooper for Traya teams is, it makes sense to keep the tag. Even if it's not accurate by lore
mntman76101
6 years ago
Well what about Asajj Ventress then? Wouldn't she gain SIth Empire? I'm also still hung up on the fact that Visas Marr should have another tag (Maybe Jedi Alliance) and have some synergy. She could be pretty useful if she did.
Enerdrizer
6 years ago
"MntMan;c-1809171" wrote:
Well what about Asajj Ventress then? Wouldn't she gain SIth Empire? I'm also still hung up on the fact that Visas Marr should have another tag (Maybe Jedi Alliance) and have some synergy. She could be pretty useful if she did.

Asaji ...What?
Enerdrizer
6 years ago
"Padas;c-1809182" wrote:
Remembers they reworded trooper to work with the triumvirate team when Scion dropped last year. That's probably part of their reasoning for not removing his tag even though he is not technically a Sith and was just a solider in the Sith Empire.

Well, he was added into the game together with nihilus 1 year before sion
scoed
6 years ago
"MntMan;c-1809171" wrote:
Well what about Asajj Ventress then? Wouldn't she gain SIth Empire? I'm also still hung up on the fact that Visas Marr should have another tag (Maybe Jedi Alliance) and have some synergy. She could be pretty useful if she did.
By the time Asajj Ventress was born the Sith Empire (note not the Sith) was long gone.

No Sith in the Republic age belong to the Sith Empire because it was replaced with the rule of two in the Sith play book because of the constant infighting among the Sith oven control of the Sith Empire basically lead to the ruin and defeat of the Sith Empire. So one to hold the power of the Sith and one to crave it. One Master and one apprentice. Both working in secret to gather power and take over the Galaxy.

And The rule of two worked as the Republic fell and the Empire (not the Sith Empire) ruled by the Sith replaced it. And it is likely the Empire would have endured had Darth Vader not returned to his Jedi roots to save Luke and betrayed the dark side of the force. Had Vader stayed Darth Vader instead of becoming Anakin Skywalker again. Had Anakin not sacrificed himself out of love, killing his former master, saving his son. But the Prophecy was fulfilled and balance was brought to the force and the Sith ended.

So no Asajj Ventress should not have the Sith Empire tag as she was a Sith pawn in the age of the rule of two. She wasn't even a full Sith, just a weapon to be used and discarded when the time was right.

Though the members of the Sith Triumvirate (Darth Traya, Darth Nihilus, and Darth Sion) should have the Sith Empire Tag as the lead what remained of the Sith Empire. SIth Trooper should by lore lose the Sith tag but sometimes game play must trump lore. Given though Sith Trooper was built to have the tag, removing it will greatly hurt the toon.

Visas Marr was not a Jedi She was fallen Sith. She helped restore the Jedi Order but was never one to my knowledge. There isn't a "Jedi Alliance" tag to be had anyway. She left and betrayed the Sith Empire and the Sith Order so they don't fit. Perhaps the Old Republic tag would be appropriate. But that would the only tag that may be applied from the lore and make any sense and even then it isn't a lock in lore.