So Zeta Finn is useless for the Sith raid...

"Darthpedro;c-1481229" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481223" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Clearly any team with Zewie and Zumi should be able to get 10% too.

Hey zumi zarriss might just be the perfect p1 combo to keep your health up

I don't see why not, it seems all zetas can work in this raid except Finn

"Liath;c-1481238" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481235" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481232" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481226" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481223" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Clearly any team with Zewie and Zumi should be able to get 10% too.

Or just read the latest comment

You mean the one posted after mine? Yes, clearly I should have read that before posting.

"B0untryHR7;c-1481225" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Some zetas are geared towards PVP and arena/TW. Some zetas are good for PVE, some are for both and some are useless but noone gets them.

Finn's zeta is considered one of the best for pve, while being viable on pvp on offense against some teams. Stipl gets destroyed on defense so you know what you get.

Regardless of that I do expect him to do well in a raid. I'm not saying it's necessarily the amount of zetas you put in but a team with no zetas having an edge over a team with 2 zetas or more is kind of bad

PVE is not one thing. There is absolutely NO reason to expect that a zeta being "good in PVE" at a certain point in time means it MUST be good in all PVE modes released ever after. Your argument makes zero sense, much like every other argument I've ever seen you make.

I never said it HAD TO DO WELL, I'm saying it would be fair, mostly to newer players who don't have a big roster

The things you demand in order for the game to be "fair" only get more absurd as time goes on.

Yes, "fair", rewarding effort and commitment should pay off than putting together a random squad with inferior mods, gear, no zetas and no synergy and still doing better

"B0untryHR7;c-1481245" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481238" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481235" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481232" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481226" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481223" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Clearly any team with Zewie and Zumi should be able to get 10% too.

Or just read the latest comment

You mean the one posted after mine? Yes, clearly I should have read that before posting.

"B0untryHR7;c-1481225" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Some zetas are geared towards PVP and arena/TW. Some zetas are good for PVE, some are for both and some are useless but noone gets them.

Finn's zeta is considered one of the best for pve, while being viable on pvp on offense against some teams. Stipl gets destroyed on defense so you know what you get.

Regardless of that I do expect him to do well in a raid. I'm not saying it's necessarily the amount of zetas you put in but a team with no zetas having an edge over a team with 2 zetas or more is kind of bad

PVE is not one thing. There is absolutely NO reason to expect that a zeta being "good in PVE" at a certain point in time means it MUST be good in all PVE modes released ever after. Your argument makes zero sense, much like every other argument I've ever seen you make.

I never said it HAD TO DO WELL, I'm saying it would be fair, mostly to newer players who don't have a big roster

The things you demand in order for the game to be "fair" only get more absurd as time goes on.

Yes, "fair", rewarding effort and commitment should pay off than putting together a random squad with inferior mods, gear, no zetas and no synergy and still doing better

That "random squad" you speak of, in what other aspects of the game is it good? Cause I'll argue that zFinn has more use overall.

"Bigbearxba;c-1481255" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481223" wrote:



Clearly any team with Zewie and Zumi should be able to get 10% too.

No no no. Just the zeta characters he owns obviously.

You selectively cherry pick comments and words, how about you read ALL my comments like:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481236" wrote:

"Darthpedro;c-1481229" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481223" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Clearly any team with Zewie and Zumi should be able to get 10% too.

Hey zumi zarriss might just be the perfect p1 combo to keep your health up

I don't see why not, it seems all zetas can work in this raid except Finn

Unless you think that magicaly I'm the Only person who has ZFinn

"Abysmal_Void;c-1481259" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481245" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481238" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481235" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481232" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481226" wrote:

"Liath;c-1481223" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Clearly any team with Zewie and Zumi should be able to get 10% too.

Or just read the latest comment

You mean the one posted after mine? Yes, clearly I should have read that before posting.

"B0untryHR7;c-1481225" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1481221" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481208" wrote:

"FredsFatties;c-1481203" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1480842" wrote:


Thousands of players have invested a zeta on Finn with the logic of being a great pve zeta that is gonna help them in raids. This is not about me. Zfinn is useless on rancor, and making useless in this raid too makes it useless in 2 out of 3 raids

1. Zeta Finn is not useless in Rancor.

2. Why would they take a mechanic that made the one of hardest parts of the game easy, and then put it directly into the new hardest part of the game. Your argument makes no sense...

Think about it. You reckon Finns Res should do 10% of a phase? So 40 Finn Res teams in a guild clears the whole raid without any other squads?? Well that’ll be any guild at 100mil GP clearing HTST from the next patch then.

Eye roll. A lot.

Ok hold on now.

1. I said "in one of the phases" meaning that he would still be useless in the other 3.
2. I said a fully geared and well modded Finn team and I also said in the edit 5-10% meaning that with some good RNG you could hit 10%
3. Would you say the same thing for let's say Rey and DeathTrooper? Why should 40 deathtroopers finish the raid and not 40 Finns when finn requires 2 zetas minimum? With your logic ANY squad capable of 10% damage is prohibitive so will you say the same thing about any squad able to do 10% damage?

Should any of the other characters with zetas be able to do good damage too? Is a zeta the barometer for a unit's prowess? You know the answer. I think you should be glad your zeta is not in vain as it does humongous damage in 1 raid at least.

Some zetas are geared towards PVP and arena/TW. Some zetas are good for PVE, some are for both and some are useless but noone gets them.

Finn's zeta is considered one of the best for pve, while being viable on pvp on offense against some teams. Stipl gets destroyed on defense so you know what you get.

Regardless of that I do expect him to do well in a raid. I'm not saying it's necessarily the amount of zetas you put in but a team with no zetas having an edge over a team with 2 zetas or more is kind of bad

PVE is not one thing. There is absolutely NO reason to expect that a zeta being "good in PVE" at a certain point in time means it MUST be good in all PVE modes released ever after. Your argument makes zero sense, much like every other argument I've ever seen you make.

I never said it HAD TO DO WELL, I'm saying it would be fair, mostly to newer players who don't have a big roster

The things you demand in order for the game to be "fair" only get more absurd as time goes on.

Yes, "fair", rewarding effort and commitment should pay off than putting together a random squad with inferior mods, gear, no zetas and no synergy and still doing better

That "random squad" you speak of, in what other aspects of the game is it good? Cause I'll argue that zFinn has more use overall.

That's not the point, the entire game is built around synergy. Even those mixed hybrid squads serve a purpose.

On rancor you can pick a handful of characters with TM removal om basic attacks, add a toon with speed down and one with tenacity down and go. CLS happens to have all 3 conditions which is why he can take any random squad and carry it in rancor.

On haat the Ackbar lead, CLS, Thrawn, BB8. Ventress works because CLS synergises off Ackbar and he gets the extra speed and bonus attacks for being rebel. Thrawn brings the fracture and protection recovery-cleanse. Ventress stacks offense indefinitely and BB8 brings the buffs and potency.

There is synergy in that squad, but you can pick ANY 5 random attackers and do more damage than Finn. How can it ever be ok that a full damage team with no synergy can outperform the most synergy based Zetas in the entire game?

"Bigbearxba;c-1481270" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481260" wrote:

Unless you think that magicaly I'm the Only person who has ZFinn

Of course not. You are just the entitled whiny brat that seems to think every character should work exactly the way you want. Despite that desire completely flying in the face of the stated intent of the content.

Well, entitlement comes from the scarcity. If it was easy to get 20 zeta mats then you zeta another team and you move on.

However the devs have made it abundantly clear that the purpose of zetas is to be a well thought, big decision that takes you to one direction and once you commit it's hard to keep splitting yourself up.

Also there is the other factor which is that Finn is one of my favourite characters in star wars and he is one of the main characters of the new trilogy so seeing him being useless for the new content feels bad.

"Bigbearxba;c-1481273" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481272" wrote:

"Bigbearxba;c-1481270" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481260" wrote:

Unless you think that magicaly I'm the Only person who has ZFinn

Of course not. You are just the entitled whiny brat that seems to think every character should work exactly the way you want. Despite that desire completely flying in the face of the stated intent of the content.

Well, entitlement comes from the scarcity. If it was easy to get 20 zeta mats then you zeta another team and you move on.

However the devs have made it abundantly clear that the purpose of zetas is to be a well thought, big decision that takes you to one direction and once you commit it's hard to keep splitting yourself up.

Also there is the other factor which is that Finn is one of my favourite characters in star wars and he is one of the main characters of the new trilogy so seeing him being useless for the new content feels bad.

Then I guess it’s a good thing that he is still very good for other extremely important parts of the game. Thus still a very good zeta investment.

I mean you can say that but think about it really.

1. He shines in haat P2 and P4 but so do A TON of other squads. Phoenix can solo p4, imperial troopers can solo P4, Rebels can solo P4, Clones can solo P4. I'm sure nightsisters can solo P4. All these squads, except rebels can also be used in P2.

Now if you have BB8 the investment in mods and gear is smaller for the same phases with Finn than the other squads mentioned BUT if you have BB8 you might as well use Rey instead.

2. Haat is not a big deal with the new Ackbar-CLS-BB8-Thrawn super team.

3. The only other 2 places where zFinn can be used is TW and TB. I'm sure some of the squads mentioned above can do just as well. Sure in TB most squads struggle when Finn pushes like a king, but that's that. I'm sure not many people want to invest in a zeta Finn just for TB. Plus if you are gonna do that, why not zeta Jyn erso instead and go with rogue one squad? That is also a free win and much more efficient one than Finn cause R1 can be used in a special mission too, and R1 exclusive SM.

4. TW, sure Finn can take out a General Zarriss team easy, but GK Zarriss is dead anyways, many squads can easily beat it, Nightsisters, Rey, Palpatine. So much that most advanced guilds are barely doing GK Zarriss zones any more.

So what do you really have left where you have no choice but to go for ZFinn???

"Indominable_J;c-1481277" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481235" wrote:


I never said it HAD TO DO WELL, I'm saying it would be fair, mostly to newer players who don't have a big roster

The Sith raid isn't designed to cater to "newer players who don't have a big roster." It's designed to be challenging content for people who have been playing and have developed rosters. Newer players have the challenge of heroic Rancor followed by the Tank raid.

Except when Traya starts owning arena new players will adapt their farming to go for Traya right away.

Most new players focus on CLS right away, whereas most of us had played for a long time before we added him to our rosters.

Why go for kenobi and not for Traya? Since rancor can be soloed by 1 character and haat can be soloed with 1 team (which includes the rancor character) now, it's not gonna divert people's farming from the sith raid.

"B0untryHR7;c-1481285" wrote:

"Bigbearxba;c-1481273" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481272" wrote:

"Bigbearxba;c-1481270" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481260" wrote:

Unless you think that magicaly I'm the Only person who has ZFinn

Of course not. You are just the entitled whiny brat that seems to think every character should work exactly the way you want. Despite that desire completely flying in the face of the stated intent of the content.

Well, entitlement comes from the scarcity. If it was easy to get 20 zeta mats then you zeta another team and you move on.

However the devs have made it abundantly clear that the purpose of zetas is to be a well thought, big decision that takes you to one direction and once you commit it's hard to keep splitting yourself up.

Also there is the other factor which is that Finn is one of my favourite characters in star wars and he is one of the main characters of the new trilogy so seeing him being useless for the new content feels bad.

Then I guess it’s a good thing that he is still very good for other extremely important parts of the game. Thus still a very good zeta investment.

I mean you can say that but think about it really.

1. He shines in haat P2 and P4 but so do A TON of other squads. Phoenix can solo p4, imperial troopers can solo P4, Rebels can solo P4, Clones can solo P4. I'm sure nightsisters can solo P4. All these squads, except rebels can also be used in P2.

Now if you have BB8 the investment in mods and gear is smaller for the same phases with Finn than the other squads mentioned BUT if you have BB8 you might as well use Rey instead.

2. Haat is not a big deal with the new Ackbar-CLS-BB8-Thrawn super team.

3. The only other 2 places where zFinn can be used is TW and TB. I'm sure some of the squads mentioned above can do just as well. Sure in TB most squads struggle when Finn pushes like a king, but that's that. I'm sure not many people want to invest in a zeta Finn just for TB. Plus if you are gonna do that, why not zeta Jyn erso instead and go with rogue one squad? That is also a free win and much more efficient one than Finn cause R1 can be used in a special mission too, and R1 exclusive SM.

4. TW, sure Finn can take out a General Zarriss team easy, but GK Zarriss is dead anyways, many squads can easily beat it, Nightsisters, Rey, Palpatine. So much that most advanced guilds are barely doing GK Zarriss zones any more.

So what do you really have left where you have no choice but to go for ZFinn???

Wait and save the zetas? I still enjoy GW with my resistance team (no BB-8, I run Finn, Poe, Trooper, R2, Pilot) because they are fun and I like the mass death from R2's Improvise Mwhahaha.

"ChristophIV;c-1481291" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481285" wrote:

"Bigbearxba;c-1481273" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481272" wrote:

"Bigbearxba;c-1481270" wrote:

"B0untryHR7;c-1481260" wrote:

Unless you think that magicaly I'm the Only person who has ZFinn

Of course not. You are just the entitled whiny brat that seems to think every character should work exactly the way you want. Despite that desire completely flying in the face of the stated intent of the content.

Well, entitlement comes from the scarcity. If it was easy to get 20 zeta mats then you zeta another team and you move on.

However the devs have made it abundantly clear that the purpose of zetas is to be a well thought, big decision that takes you to one direction and once you commit it's hard to keep splitting yourself up.

Also there is the other factor which is that Finn is one of my favourite characters in star wars and he is one of the main characters of the new trilogy so seeing him being useless for the new content feels bad.

Then I guess it’s a good thing that he is still very good for other extremely important parts of the game. Thus still a very good zeta investment.

I mean you can say that but think about it really.

1. He shines in haat P2 and P4 but so do A TON of other squads. Phoenix can solo p4, imperial troopers can solo P4, Rebels can solo P4, Clones can solo P4. I'm sure nightsisters can solo P4. All these squads, except rebels can also be used in P2.

Now if you have BB8 the investment in mods and gear is smaller for the same phases with Finn than the other squads mentioned BUT if you have BB8 you might as well use Rey instead.

2. Haat is not a big deal with the new Ackbar-CLS-BB8-Thrawn super team.

3. The only other 2 places where zFinn can be used is TW and TB. I'm sure some of the squads mentioned above can do just as well. Sure in TB most squads struggle when Finn pushes like a king, but that's that. I'm sure not many people want to invest in a zeta Finn just for TB. Plus if you are gonna do that, why not zeta Jyn erso instead and go with rogue one squad? That is also a free win and much more efficient one than Finn cause R1 can be used in a special mission too, and R1 exclusive SM.

4. TW, sure Finn can take out a General Zarriss team easy, but GK Zarriss is dead anyways, many squads can easily beat it, Nightsisters, Rey, Palpatine. So much that most advanced guilds are barely doing GK Zarriss zones any more.

So what do you really have left where you have no choice but to go for ZFinn???

Wait and save the zetas? I still enjoy GW with my resistance team (no BB-8, I run Finn, Poe, Trooper, R2, Pilot) because they are fun and I like the mass death from R2's Improvise Mwhahaha.

Well you may enjoy your zFinn in GW but no-one will spend a zeta for a mode that can easily be beaten without one.

If zetas were easy to obtain then it wouldn't be a problem however we have far too many zetas for how quickly we can get 20 mats.

NOBODY will say, "Hey imma zeta finn for GW when I can just do it with g10 wiggs".