State of Guilds?

Lost 5 members all due to Relics and all 4.4 GP +, and more if light side Geo isn’t great or some great content doesn’t get announced soon... a lot of 200k+ Guilds are hurting

225M 29* Geo guild, lost two major players so far. Overall mood is a bit depressing right now.

It's more an issue of pride than an actual problem.

There are plenty of guild with 43-47 members and new guilds are opening every day. I every 10th guild of similar capacity (there are hundreds even of 200m+ guilds) broke up (possibly within an alliance, if the problem is staying together with friends), the problem would be solved, but as long as everyone insists on keeping their guild there won't be a solution.

Unless your guild has a strong enough status to attract a surplus of new candidates, of course.

We lost 8 players because of relics. People either quit or joined more relaxed guilds. Staying competitive became more expensive when relics dropped.

My previously 220GP Top 50 TW guild lost 3 right after the TB ended, and they all cited Relics.

Another 2 officers have been discussing it pretty consistently enough that it's difficult to dismiss.

The idea of new Relic only abilities furthering the distance between players and guilds has demoralized them...and we haven't been able to fill a single one of our shortages yet.

We've never gone more than hours without replacing someone.

We were never hyper-competitive... We had a couple of dolphins but mostly it was folks who just enjoyed the f2p game and one another's company. So we have weathered storms pretty well, including when new raids came along and other guilds were experiencing players departing so they could join groups that beat the raids sooner.

Recent developments in the game, relics included, have begun to change that. We lost our heaviest hitter as he retired from the game completely, and some others did the same. One guy left for smaller guilds so he could help them do things like beat raids for the first time. We're188m GP and managed to find replacements so we are still at 50/50.

Overall sentiment is not great. People have long since given up the notion of catching up, and even treading water doesn't seem likely. Now the sense is that by not spending you are going to fall behind faster than ever before..."fun" enters into the picture less and less.

Amusingly, some of our members started playing marvel under the same guild name, and so we added a channel on our Discord for that. I wonder if that channel will ultimately see more traffic than the ones dedicated to this game...

We lost no-one from our 182 mil 20* geo tb guild. To my knowledge, no-one is talking about leaving either. Relics are just another progression system to be worked at, just like mods, hstr, geo tb, upcoming ls geo tb, so everything is fine from our perspective.

This feels like a stealth recruiting thread for some people.

I thought veteren players would be pleased with relics. It gives the game a new lease of life and some thing new to improve there squads with. Personally i like relics, the only thing id say about them is maybe a bit to soon after g13. Its a long grind from g12 to g13 with relic 7

"TVF;c-1964507" wrote:
This feels like a stealth recruiting thread for some people.

It's mainly to show that not only low GP players are leaving. We were at 205m GP before, now we're 7 players short.
Relics aren't that bad, it's just the timing. They could have brought G13 earlier and yes, this totally was possible. I don't believe they developed Relics in just a couple months after G13 was finished, this looks like a long term thing.