Come on CG, please review the TW Matchmaking!!!Surely it can't be that difficult! You're taking the fun out of TW

"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. On the other hand there is no point complaining about it because as long as matchmaking is based on active GP alone this will continue.

"Deany123;c-2119634" wrote:"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. Let's be honest here... "everyone knows" is a classic smokescreen tactic used when your "facts" have about as much substance as said smokescreen.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2119640" wrote:"Deany123;c-2119634" wrote:"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. Let's be honest here... "everyone knows" is a classic smokescreen tactic used when your "facts" have about as much substance as said smokescreen.My guild is out matched every single TW. Beaten on mods, beaten on GL, beaten on meta characters....basically beaten on everything. We have quite alot of bloated gp players so as long as matchups are done on GP alone we always will be out matched. It's not a complaint, we have accepted it is what it is and just try and have fun anyway.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2119640" wrote:"Deany123;c-2119634" wrote:"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. Let's be honest here... "everyone knows" is a classic smokescreen tactic used when your "facts" have about as much substance as said smokescreen.In this case though, it actually is an everyone knows situation. Our guild doesn't force 50/50 in TW, we just go with whoever joins, so a lot of the time we wallop our opponents, often having a 20-30M advantage over them. Or the flipside happens, where we recently faced a Top 20 GP guild and got our collective butts whooped.

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103 Replies

Jareknz85
6 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2122343" wrote:
"W00kiemonster;c-2122122" wrote:
We routinely get stacked against guilds with 5 or 6 GL’s to our 1 - qualitatively we have no chance before it even starts - they should add a surrender button to let us just take our loot and go if they aren’t going to make it equitable and fun

But some guilds are always going to face an imbalance on these things.

I mean, a 226M guild with only 16 GAS is going to be up against it no matter who they draw.

You have demonstrated why the culture of this game is horrendous. You're basically normalising bad code. Why should we accept that there's an imbalance? This isn't a game with 10 guilds. This is a game with thousands.

Why has it become ok to eat **** and just say, "oh thats life".
k3nw74
6 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2122423" wrote:
"AntaresKOTD;c-2122406" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2122343" wrote:
"W00kiemonster;c-2122122" wrote:
We routinely get stacked against guilds with 5 or 6 GL’s to our 1 - qualitatively we have no chance before it even starts - they should add a surrender button to let us just take our loot and go if they aren’t going to make it equitable and fun

But some guilds are always going to face an imbalance on these things.

I mean, a 226M guild with only 16 GAS is going to be up against it no matter who they draw.

You have demonstrated why the culture of this game is horrendous. You're basically normalising bad code. Why should we accept that there's an imbalance? This isn't a game with 10 guilds. This is a game with thousands.

Why has it become ok to eat **** and just say, "oh thats life".

I’m not normalising bad code.

Do I think they should change MM to match on active GP AND number of signed up players? Yes.

Do I think they should change MM so that guilds are only matched with guilds with a similar amount of key toons? No.

StarSon gave you an example above, that we noticed you didn't reply too. Please feel free to reply to the example given.
k3nw74
6 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2121519" wrote:

If you can find an example of what you describe actually happening, then you’re onto something.

Good luck with that.
Waquira
6 years ago
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?
Persimius
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.
k3nw74
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

You know what the point is, and the relevance of the post. Let's stop pretending we don't understand...
BountyKillerCa
6 years ago
"Starl0rd;c-2122886" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

You know what the point is, and the relevance of the post. Let's stop pretending we don't understand...

He does this in every thread I've noticed. Must be bored with the game or something. Just ignore him, it's easier that way.
Waquira
6 years ago
"Starl0rd;c-2122886" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

You know what the point is, and the relevance of the post. Let's stop pretending we don't understand...

It's not relevant to my and Ggdjqjchsabjdj's discussion. As a response to me/us it made no sense. Quoting me/us made no sense.

Yes, it may be relevant to others, but why the quote?
Waquira
6 years ago
"StarSon;c-2122848" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.

That's not what @Ggdjqjchsabjdj and I were discussing. Your quote was pointless. Your comment may be relevant to others but not to what you quoted.

But ok, thanx at least for explaining your point.
Persimius
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-2122935" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2122848" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.

That's not what @Ggdjqjchsabjdj and I were discussing. Your quote was pointless. Your comment may be relevant to others but not to what you quoted.

But ok, thanx at least for explaining your point.

I quoted you asking him for data. There is lots of data to backup his claims in this thread, and the other one. I added the screenshot after the fact for extra data. Not sure how that isn't what you were discussing or how my reply was "pointless" to that discussion.