STR 5-6

"Warp3dM1nd;d-190968" wrote:
It has come to my attention since we just started tier 5 and 6. Is it standard practice for Traya's Sabers and Sions pulse to Annihilate? Multiple times since we started once my Sion launched Held by Hatred anytime he is low health and gets hit by Trayas and Sions abilities they are instantly annihilates. If this intended? Admittedly I haven't read what the bosses are capable of. Just curious if anybody could enlighten me.

Errr i admit i am confused by your post, u need to phrase it better. All i can think of is there is a possibility that ur sion was isolated, so he doesnt revive.

I'm not sure what you mean by "annihilate." If you just mean your guys die really fast, as you increase in tiers the bosses start doing dramatically increased damage. When my guild was doing tier 4 I would completely ignore Sion's Pain debuffs and just enjoy the increased damage. Now we're on tier 6, and anybody on my roster other than a couple of really beefy tanks gets liquefied if they take more than one counter with a couple Cycles of Suffering in play.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Sion is low on health but has Held by Hatred activated. If working properly he should revive when killed regardless of what it is outside of DN Annihilate. Yet time and time again I have had HbH activated yet when Trayas sabers hit me or her ground shock or any of Sions abilities ( He hit me with his double attack today) hit me I die and do not revive. Is this WAI or a bug. It never happened on the lower tiers only 5 and 6. Hence me asking if it is a boss specific trait.

My Sion is G12 part of my arena and has his Zeta.

As stated, if he is isolated he won’t revive. Sometimes the attack that kills him actually applied the isolate but you can’t see it because he died at the same time.

Traya's "ground shock" applies Isolate, so if he's dying to that he won't revive. I don't think Sion has anything that prevents revive though, so that seems buggy.

"Jarvind;c-1730540" wrote:
Traya's "ground shock" applies Isolate, so if he's dying to that he won't revive. I don't think Sion has anything that prevents revive though, so that seems buggy.

The only thing that prevents is DN Annihilate. If you take the ability as it is stated even isolate shouldn't keep from Sion reviving. Outside of isolate none of the boss Sions abilities apply isolate so even if that was the case he still should revive.

*edit* I can now also add boss DN to that list he did ability drain which happen to pull the last bit of energy from my Sion and sure enough the died no revive.

How do you alert the powers that be of a potential bug or if it is WAI.

@Kyno could you please be so kind as ask around.. It's a bit crap that Held by Hatred with a zeta is effectively not there when fighting t5 and t6 raids.

"Warp3dM1nd;c-1730965" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-1730540" wrote:
Traya's "ground shock" applies Isolate, so if he's dying to that he won't revive. I don't think Sion has anything that prevents revive though, so that seems buggy.

The only thing that prevents is DN Annihilate. If you take the ability as it is stated even isolate shouldn't keep from Sion reviving. Outside of isolate none of the boss Sions abilities apply isolate so even if that was the case he still should revive.

*edit* I can now also add boss DN to that list he did ability drain which happen to pull the last bit of energy from my Sion and sure enough the died no revive.

How do you alert the powers that be of a potential bug or if it is WAI.

@Kyno could you please be so kind as ask around.. It's a bit crap that Held by Hatred with a zeta is effectively not there when fighting t5 and t6 raids.

That is not accurate. Look at the definition of Isolate in the raid. (Hint: it's different than the character version.) The first thing it says in the definition is "Can't be revived."

If the character is isolated when he dies, he cannot be revived. DN annihilate is absolutely NOT the only thing that can prevent revive.

As always, read the raid descriptions.

"Liath;c-1731125" wrote:

"Warp3dM1nd;c-1730965" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-1730540" wrote:
Traya's "ground shock" applies Isolate, so if he's dying to that he won't revive. I don't think Sion has anything that prevents revive though, so that seems buggy.

The only thing that prevents is DN Annihilate. If you take the ability as it is stated even isolate shouldn't keep from Sion reviving. Outside of isolate none of the boss Sions abilities apply isolate so even if that was the case he still should revive.

*edit* I can now also add boss DN to that list he did ability drain which happen to pull the last bit of energy from my Sion and sure enough the died no revive.

How do you alert the powers that be of a potential bug or if it is WAI.

Kyno could you please be so kind as ask around.. It's a bit crap that Held by Hatred with a zeta is effectively not there when fighting t5 and t6 raids.

That is not accurate. Look at the definition of Isolate in the raid. (Hint: it's different than the character version.) The first thing it says in the definition is "Can't be revived."

If the character is isolated when he dies, he cannot be revived. DN annihilate is absolutely NOT the only thing that can prevent revive.

This.

It has happened when he isn't isolated. I thought I made that clear in earlier post but obviously not. He dies from any of the bosses even when Hatred is on and not isolated.

I admit I was wrong on the isolate but I usually remove as soon as it is put on. Regardless it doesn't explain everything else killing him and him not reviving.