As we all know, there are many secondary speed mods that have amounts that would only be intended if you have no clue or desire to balance the game. It would take a lot of work to rebalance those mods and I suggest that it isn't even necessary. The best way to fix the secondary speed mods is to fix the AI of tanks to not taunt first. Simple fix. Currently there are teams that can't be beat on defense that consist of double tanks with ridiculous speed mods (with TM manipulation) and 2-3 AOE toons droping 10-16K AOEs on each enemy. This results in many dead before they can even move (This goes against the design philosophy and therefore must be changed immediately). This has created a situation in my shard that nobody even tries to attack number one anymore because the sped up double tank TM manipulation is an instant "I WIN". My solution is simple and elegant without making major changes. Make Poe and STH shoot on their first turn if they move before the enemy team. Simple and elegent. If this could be changed by Thursday, that would be great.. Thanks:)

This is an inevitable issue with the game.. and as time drags on, only gets worse.Even between whales they do not have the same RNG access to secondary mod stats going through the roof. Secondary speed stats have invalidated team speed leader powers and traditional speed synergy teams. Finding speed-based primary arrow mods is already taxing enough for the player base- but was traditionally thought to be limited to +30.Secondary speed stats must have completely missed the balancing nerf.We now have Sun Fac's, Old Bens and other not-supposed-to-be-200+ speed toons well, going first. This is drastically changing the games balance to harmful levels.The ONLY way to compete, is to ignore said player or find your own +18, 19 even +20 speed mod secondary stats... and this can cost insurmountable cash akin to playing the lottery.If you are in a situation where Old Ben has something like 230 speed, the first thing he does is set the entire team back 2 turns with -60% tm, 50% less power and no access to abilities. Why even play toons?I've been around since early December hanging in there. I've survived two precraft fiasco's and raid grinding, but this one is taking the cake. Anyone else on vet servers feeling the issue yet? Is this really how things are going to pan out in this game? Where toon strats are invalidated by a small subset of secondary stats?http://i.imgur.com/N10k54t.jpg

I agree Buy more modsWorking as intended

When you compare to other secondary stats speed is about 5x more impactful

"Delicious_Bass;614015" wrote:When you compare to other secondary stats speed is about 5x more impactful10x. But yea, might be a bit of a problem.

Suggestion to fix the Secondary Speed Mod Fiasco without changing the mods

scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
9 years ago
Not saying a possibile change is not needed.

Dodge lead invalidated team synergy for a while.
Everything in this game is faster to access via spending. Access to the +21 speed is faster via spending.

Let's say they nerf secondary to +5 speed max
So everyone would just add +45 speed to the team and everyone would be the same, as if not having mods.

Or the big spenders would get the speed mod sets thru shipments and still out speed the majority of the player base with +10% +45 speed.
gooddoggy
9 years ago
One good side effect is that it brings back old favorites to arena. My 200 speed fotp is returning from retirement. Works very well in my shard.
NyKynoe
9 years ago
"Ripitrox82;614027" wrote:
So basically you're mad you don't have meta and someone else does? Did I miss anything?

People need to grow up and realize not everyone gets to be first. Stop moaning and groaning and enjoy the game for what it is. If you don't enjoy it any more I hear there's a whole slew of games available on the app store

+1
VirtraThread
9 years ago
"Ripitrox82;614027" wrote:
So basically you're mad you don't have meta and someone else does? Did I miss anything?

People need to grow up and realize not everyone gets to be first. Stop moaning and groaning and enjoy the game for what it is. If you don't enjoy it any more I hear there's a whole slew of games available on the app store

I agree with this.

Do i like the 200+ speed Old Ben? No, but I'm farming and gathering my own speed mods and also increasing other stats to compensate. Every heard of tenacity secondaries? Doesn't matter if ben is fast, if he can't inflict his negative effects on your team. I may not have +21 speed secondaries, but i have a bunch of mods with 8 - 15 speed secondaries and it helps me stay in the top 100, and i'm not even lvl 80 yet. It's all about playing with what you have. You can't cover everything with mods, you're gonna have to sacrifice something. If you can't get the massive speed, then use what you can and make do.

Griping won't fix the problem, it just creates a negative culture in the community.
zackbradford
9 years ago
I'm pretty sure that the only people left on these forums are trolls and immature pricks who think spending thousands on a mobile game equates to skill lol

Essentially, git gud brah... Ugh humanity
Pyramidshawn
9 years ago
"Delicious_Bass;614015" wrote:
When you compare to other secondary stats speed is about 5x more impactful
merioonvalhoun
9 years ago
its ridiculous that secondary speed mods have turned into the Lottery
tanconator
9 years ago
Good luck farming or should I say, buying these mods.
Eocri
9 years ago
Just grind mods.
Noktarn
9 years ago
You guys are missing the point. Even if you grind or pay- you may not end up with the same speed advantage. It won't be just old Ben. Even if you spend 2k and nab two 20 secondary stay speed mods, someone else who got rng on their side will have a perpetual advantage. Give it another month til this stuff becomes obvious. Character star rank, level and raid gear won't match these mods conferring 2x speed stat.