Tank takedown ( Merged thread)

I'm glad it's hard. We are all going to be 85 soon. This raid needs to remain relevant at that point. That said, why such a difference in t6. Vs t7 HP totals? 4m in t7 vs 30m in t6 for p1, is that accurate?

The intended gear level needs to be changed or the difficulty needs to be dropped. Normal is not meant for 6*, level 80, Gear VIII, and MkV mods

i think they made too hard so whales would be able to get first crack at rewards, so theyll spend more money.

"scuba;726213" wrote:
I am sure it won't happen but I would like to see one of the guilds that completed a heroic tank try the normal, just to get a gauge of time frame.

Unfortunately for obvious reasons I don't think someone that can beat heroic would do normal.

That Being said, I agree there should either be a nerf of normal, or another easier mode

So my guess is instead of sending all the negative vibes , the community should agree to make a post to dev asking for an easy mode of the raid. I'm sure when dev see the completion rate of normal, they will not hesitate to either make it easier or deliver and easier mode.

I, for one, am glad you spent August-October methodically coding, QCing and balancing this raid to provide peak custom service we've come to expect from everyone's favourite games publisher.

We are a average guild and we can beat t6 rancor in a day. I've been playing since spring and I could only do 200k total with the 14 toons I could use. Our first day total on new raid is 3mil. It's going to take 10 days before finishing p1 lol... Even now I'm looking at weeks of farming to get specific toons to do better.
I wonder how many other guilds are like us and laugh on how ridiculously and silly this raid is.
I agree that a new and higher difficulty raid was needed but really???
I'm sure you just discouraged any new players.
If I knew when I started that I would have to invest my time and (hundreds of dollars) and play every day for "SIX" months to barely make a dent in a raid I would have not even bothered downloading the app.

If the feeling we need a tier5 new raid is overwhelming, why doesn't someone create a poll... If enough people participate, it should call dev's attention?

The raid is not broken. This is the raid we are given for the new xp cap.
If all guilds could clear the new raid at level 81 in 1 day how fun is it gonna be when we are all level 85 with greater gear levels.
As fun as it is to raid T7 rancor now with 50 % of guild members able to solo it.

Sure there is a few top guilds that are loaded with whales that have +30 chars with G10 gear and optimal mods equipped. But right now there is very few guilds who have killed it.

Personally i am in a more casual guild. First day we could only remove 50 % of phase 1 in T6.
I think it is great that we haven been given a real challenge that we are not gonna be able to face roll in 2 days.

"Maraxus;726593" wrote:

"scuba;726213" wrote:
I am sure it won't happen but I would like to see one of the guilds that completed a heroic tank try the normal, just to get a gauge of time frame.

Unfortunately for obvious reasons I don't think someone that can beat heroic would do normal.

That Being said, I agree there should either be a nerf of normal, or another easier mode

So my guess is instead of sending all the negative vibes , the community should agree to make a post to dev asking for an easy mode of the raid. I'm sure when dev see the completion rate of normal, they will not hesitate to either make it easier or deliver and easier mode.

Yup, that is why I said I don't think it will ever happen.

I am good either way the Dev's will do as they please and as you said may, after looking at the completion rate say OK maybe that was on an extreme. I will chug along if the Raid takes 3 days to complete or 4 weeks to complete it is only a game.

My excitement level for this "new content" has plummeted for sure though.

As far as making a post to the dev... Well we have a mega thread now so anything related to the "difficulty" of the Raid, I think it is more monotony, will be merged here.

I guess my issue with the raid is the on normal even with excellent squads its going to take more time to clear that it does to generate coins to launch it, so you'll also be losing coins to overcap. I don't much care for the design that heroic is short (with restrictions) and normal is just a massive slog. Its the same problem from the Rancor raid.

Couldn't they have the same HP, and heroic just have the additional restrictions and higher enemy non-hp stats? This wouldn't change the difficulty, just the amount of time it takes to clear.