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Hansolo138
9 years ago

Teebo ability, Ewok scramble tactics

With the overwhelming work that has been put into fixing this ability since before August, it has been made abundantly clear you are not going to fix this ability. With this I have a simple solution and it will only require changing the verbiage of the ability.

Instead of Ewok scramble tactics, change the name to

"Cr ap shoot" erase the current description and replace it with "Stealth Teebo, Will it work? We don't know, why should you?" Cooldown still 5, and add "we don't know why either and that's how it's going to stay because we have no intentions on fixing this ability like we said we would."

I know it is a little wordy, but it really provides a level of transparency to the customer.

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    Hansolo138
    9 years ago
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    "BrtStlnd;795775" wrote:
    I think it's obvious they don't want to fix it. The result would only serve to make the pit raid even easier, and they don't want to do that.


    I think that was the point of my original post. They fixed stealth, which broke Teebo. Then they stated they could fix it, it would just take time. That was almost more than 6 months ago. I haven't looked at source code since 2003, but I imagine I could have figured a fix in 6 months.

    The general consensus is after they found out that Teebo and all the other tm characters made the rancor raid faster than they wanted it to be initially. It was a unconventional solution to solve the problem that was caused by putting out a raid that was not beta tested successfully. This has been the general theme of most games that have been released as a mmo. Release the content as fast as possible then hot fix major problems as the arise.

    The problem I have is they said they would fix this problem, it would just take time. Time has turned into an ambiguous determination, the makes me feel like we are playing a game of Spaceballs rather than star wars.

    "Lord Dark Helmet: What the hell am I looking at? When does THIS happen in the move?
    Col. Sandurz: NOW. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now.
    Lord Dark Helmet: Go back to then!
    Col. Sandurz: What?
    Lord Dark Helmet: THEN!
    Col. Sandurz: I can't!
    Lord Dark Helmet: Why not?
    Col. Sandurz: We passed it!
    Lord Dark Helmet: When?
    Col. Sandurz: Just now!
    Lord Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
    Col. Sandurz: SOON!"

    Which leads me to this quote,

    "Lord Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
    Maj. Asshole: I did, sir! He's my cousin.
    Lord Dark Helmet: Who is he?
    Col. Sandurz: He's an Asshole, sir.
    Lord Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
    Col. Sandurz: That is his name, sir. Asshole. Major Asshole.
    Lord Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
    Col. Sandurz: He's an Asshole, too, sir. Gunner's made first class Phillip Asshole.
    Lord Dark Helmet: How many Asshole's we got on this ship, anyhow?
    Lord Dark Helmet: How many Asshole's we got on this ship, anyhow?
    Lord Dark Helmet: I knew it, I'm surrounded by Asshole's. Keep firing, Asshole's!"
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    Hansolo138
    9 years ago
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    "ARCTrooperFives;795731" wrote:
    He will never get fixed, just accept it by now


    I know they will never fix it, reading and sarcasm is not a strong suit in some of my fellow humans, you demonstrated this, thanks for adding nothing to the post.
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    Hansolo138
    9 years ago
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    So here is documented proof this has been a known issue since February 2016

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/9612/teebo-loses-stealth-too-soon#latest

    Took a lot of searching, but I finally found some information.
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    Maegore
    9 years ago
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    "sjkerhfgdjhd;795644" wrote:
    "1AmYourFath3r;794988" wrote:
    "sjkerhfgdjhd;794950" wrote:
    I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him.

    What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is.

    I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug.



    You can easily get 5 mil against rancor with ftp toons. Hell, I don't even think whales use premium toons against it, except out of boredom.


    The toons may be FTP, but that doesn't mean it is easy for FTP to get them, level them, gear them, and mod them. If the Teebo stealth bug were fixed it would probably double the amount of people who can solo at least one phase of a heroic Rancor, and probably triple or quadruple the number of FTP who can do that.



    Lol, yes it is. A ton of ftp players have him and the others leveled, geared and modded.

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\"BrtStlnd;795775\" wrote:
I think it's obvious they don't want to fix it. The result would only serve to make the pit raid even easier, and they don't want to do that.


I think that was the point of my original post. They fixed stealth, which broke Teebo. Then they stated they could fix it, it would just take time. That was almost more than 6 months ago. I haven't looked at source code since 2003, but I imagine I could have figured a fix in 6 months.

The general consensus is after they found out that Teebo and all the other tm characters made the rancor raid faster than they wanted it to be initially. It was a unconventional solution to solve the problem that was caused by putting out a raid that was not beta tested successfully. This has been the general theme of most games that have been released as a mmo. Release the content as fast as possible then hot fix major problems as the arise.

The problem I have is they said they would fix this problem, it would just take time. Time has turned into an ambiguous determination, the makes me feel like we are playing a game of Spaceballs rather than star wars.

\"Lord Dark Helmet: What the hell am I looking at? When does THIS happen in the move?
Col. Sandurz: NOW. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now.
Lord Dark Helmet: Go back to then!
Col. Sandurz: What?
Lord Dark Helmet: THEN!
Col. Sandurz: I can't!
Lord Dark Helmet: Why not?
Col. Sandurz: We passed it!
Lord Dark Helmet: When?
Col. Sandurz: Just now!
Lord Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
Col. Sandurz: SOON!\"

Which leads me to this quote,

\"Lord Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
Maj. Asshole: I did, sir! He's my cousin.
Lord Dark Helmet: Who is he?
Col. Sandurz: He's an Asshole, sir.
Lord Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
Col. Sandurz: That is his name, sir. Asshole. Major Asshole.
Lord Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
Col. Sandurz: He's an Asshole, too, sir. Gunner's made first class Phillip Asshole.
Lord Dark Helmet: How many Asshole's we got on this ship, anyhow?
Lord Dark Helmet: How many Asshole's we got on this ship, anyhow?
Lord Dark Helmet: I knew it, I'm surrounded by Asshole's. Keep firing, Asshole's!\"","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-12-10T20:01:11.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-10T20:01:11.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4004065/message:4004076","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2395","rawBody":"
\"BrtStlnd;795775\" wrote:
I think it's obvious they don't want to fix it. The result would only serve to make the pit raid even easier, and they don't want to do that.


I think that was the point of my original post. They fixed stealth, which broke Teebo. Then they stated they could fix it, it would just take time. That was almost more than 6 months ago. I haven't looked at source code since 2003, but I imagine I could have figured a fix in 6 months.

The general consensus is after they found out that Teebo and all the other tm characters made the rancor raid faster than they wanted it to be initially. It was a unconventional solution to solve the problem that was caused by putting out a raid that was not beta tested successfully. This has been the general theme of most games that have been released as a mmo. Release the content as fast as possible then hot fix major problems as the arise.

The problem I have is they said they would fix this problem, it would just take time. Time has turned into an ambiguous determination, the makes me feel like we are playing a game of Spaceballs rather than star wars.

\"Lord Dark Helmet: What the hell am I looking at? When does THIS happen in the move?
Col. Sandurz: NOW. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now.
Lord Dark Helmet: Go back to then!
Col. Sandurz: What?
Lord Dark Helmet: THEN!
Col. Sandurz: I can't!
Lord Dark Helmet: Why not?
Col. Sandurz: We passed it!
Lord Dark Helmet: When?
Col. Sandurz: Just now!
Lord Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
Col. Sandurz: SOON!\"

Which leads me to this quote,

\"Lord Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
Maj. Asshole: I did, sir! He's my cousin.
Lord Dark Helmet: Who is he?
Col. Sandurz: He's an Asshole, sir.
Lord Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
Col. Sandurz: That is his name, sir. Asshole. Major Asshole.
Lord Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
Col. Sandurz: He's an Asshole, too, sir. Gunner's made first class Phillip Asshole.
Lord Dark Helmet: How many Asshole's we got on this ship, anyhow?
Lord Dark Helmet: How many Asshole's we got on this ship, anyhow?
Lord Dark Helmet: I knew it, I'm surrounded by Asshole's. Keep firing, Asshole's!\"","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4004076_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4004077":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4004077","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4004077":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:61774"},"id":"message:4004077","revisionNum":1,"uid":4004077,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4004065"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4004065"},"subject":"Re: Teebo ability, Ewok scramble tactics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4004077"},"body":"
\"ARCTrooperFives;795731\" wrote:
He will never get fixed, just accept it by now


I know they will never fix it, reading and sarcasm is not a strong suit in some of my fellow humans, you demonstrated this, thanks for adding nothing to the post.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-12-10T20:14:41.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-10T20:14:41.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4004065/message:4004077","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"282","rawBody":"
\"ARCTrooperFives;795731\" wrote:
He will never get fixed, just accept it by now


I know they will never fix it, reading and sarcasm is not a strong suit in some of my fellow humans, you demonstrated this, thanks for adding nothing to the post.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4004077_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4004078":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4004078","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4004078":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:61774"},"id":"message:4004078","revisionNum":1,"uid":4004078,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4004065"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4004065"},"subject":"Re: Teebo ability, Ewok scramble tactics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4004078"},"body":"So here is documented proof this has been a known issue since February 2016

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/9612/teebo-loses-stealth-too-soon#latest

Took a lot of searching, but I finally found some information.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-12-16T16:57:09.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-16T16:57:09.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4004065/message:4004078","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"261","rawBody":"So here is documented proof this has been a known issue since February 2016

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/9612/teebo-loses-stealth-too-soon#latest

Took a lot of searching, but I finally found some information.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4004078_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:203217":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:203217","uid":203217,"login":"Maegore","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-06-02T11:16:51.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1721239561000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:203217"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4004079":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4004079","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4004079":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:203217"},"id":"message:4004079","revisionNum":1,"uid":4004079,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4004065"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4004065"},"subject":"Re: Teebo ability, Ewok scramble tactics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4004079"},"body":"
\"sjkerhfgdjhd;795644\" wrote:
\"1AmYourFath3r;794988\" wrote:
\"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950\" wrote:
I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him.

What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is.

I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug.



You can easily get 5 mil against rancor with ftp toons. Hell, I don't even think whales use premium toons against it, except out of boredom.


The toons may be FTP, but that doesn't mean it is easy for FTP to get them, level them, gear them, and mod them. If the Teebo stealth bug were fixed it would probably double the amount of people who can solo at least one phase of a heroic Rancor, and probably triple or quadruple the number of FTP who can do that.



Lol, yes it is. A ton of ftp players have him and the others leveled, geared and modded.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-12-16T17:19:13.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-16T17:19:13.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4004065/message:4004079","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1476","rawBody":"
\"sjkerhfgdjhd;795644\" wrote:
\"1AmYourFath3r;794988\" wrote:
\"sjkerhfgdjhd;794950\" wrote:
I think it is pretty well determined what is happening, and the fix would be ridiculously simple, they just don't want to fix him.

What is happening is that his leader ability changes his stealth status regardless or whether he is stealthed already or not. Fixing it would probably simplify the code, but it would make him even more powerful against the Rancor than he already is, and they don't want to give the ability to do well against the Heroic Rancor to any more non whales than they absolutely have to, so he will be left as is.

I doubt you will ever get the devs to say so, but I'm pretty sure that Teebo's stealth bug is now classed as a feature rather than a bug.



You can easily get 5 mil against rancor with ftp toons. Hell, I don't even think whales use premium toons against it, except out of boredom.


The toons may be FTP, but that doesn't mean it is easy for FTP to get them, level them, gear them, and mod them. If the Teebo stealth bug were fixed it would probably double the amount of people who can solo at least one phase of a heroic Rancor, and probably triple or quadruple the number of FTP who can do that.



Lol, yes it is. 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