Hi everyone.As I understand it, the rancor always has a 15% minimum chance of resisting negative status effects and TM removal, no matter how much potency a character has.A few questions:(1) If the rancor has the tenacity down debuff throughout the raid, does that mean that your debuffing and TM removing characters don't have to be equipped with potency at all, and the rancor will only resist 15% of the time? Will a TM removing toon with 0% potency in this situation be just as effective against the rancor, as the same toon equipped with 100% potency?(2) If the rancor doesn't have tenacity down, how much potency will characters have to have, to make sure that the rancor's chance of resisting will reach the minimum of 15%?Hope some of you may know.

You still need potency unless you plan on having tenacity down on thw rancor 100% of the time. Not to mention whoever is applying tenacity down need potency.

1) yes, potency doesn't matter if the enemy has tenacity down2) don't know exactly, thought it was around 60/70% or so.

"ExarTheKun;c-1196452" wrote:You still need potency unless you plan on having tenacity down on thw rancor 100% of the time. Not to mention whoever is applying tenacity down need potency.i believe the tenacity down debuff doesn't go through the potency/tenacity check (since you can land it when tenacity up is active)

1) yes and yes, although you may want some potency if rng goes bad and tenacity down expires and dengar/tfp don't crit (unless you go with jyn/phasma to give them advance) or miss their hit 2) around 60% for p1 and like 80% for p2/3/4 is what people says

"leef;c-1196457" wrote:"ExarTheKun;c-1196452" wrote:You still need potency unless you plan on having tenacity down on thw rancor 100% of the time. Not to mention whoever is applying tenacity down need potency.i believe the tenacity down debuff doesn't go through the potency/tenacity check (since you can land it when tenacity up is active)Fair point. never though about it like that.

Tenacity down and potency in the heroic pit raid

Darkheart16
8 years ago
You want a decent crit chance on TFP if you're not using Phasma. Tenacity Down is a fixed chance of sticking and TFP will only inflict it on a crit with his basic
Vice_Torn
Seasoned Newcomer
8 years ago
I think your missing the level difference in the rancor raid. They are 5-10 lvls above your toons. Even with tenacity down. They will still resist more because of this level spread.

I think I saw somewhere that resist chance is something like:

(Tenacity + 5*level difference - Potency)

With minimum resist chance of 15%.

So even if Tenacity was 0, you still need 100 potency to have a descent success rate.
emvedebe
8 years ago
"Vice_torn;c-1197092" wrote:
I think your missing the level difference in the rancor raid. They are 5-10 lvls above your toons. Even with tenacity down. They will still resist more because of this level spread.

I think I saw somewhere that resist chance is something like:

(Tenacity + 5*level difference - Potency)

With minimum resist chance of 15%.

So even if Tenacity was 0, you still need 100 potency to have a descent success rate.

i've read that somewhere aswell, but your calculations are a bit off.
at 0% tenacity and level delta 5 (i believe the rancor is level 90) you still only need 10% potency for max success rate. Anything above that is wasted because of the minimum resist chance.
Not sure why you think the level difference matters when you're using tenacity down. Tenacity down lowers the tenacity with 999900%, so it's not like you won't reach the minimum chance, not even if you're using lvl 1 characters.
anirudhbala
8 years ago
To everyone here rancor level in heroic pit is 80

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