The Biggs/Wedge combo is reducing variety in the game

"Mithrawnuodo;827479" wrote:


I don't use those toons, as I may have already pointed out.
And Wiggs and Chaze? Wiggs isn't the issue there, and you know it. So don't try and tell me, or anyone with half a brain it is.
As far as the imbalances... it's bound to happen no matter what. If you want a balanced, fair, and interesting game... freemium isn't where you're gonna find it to. If you think it is, you're a fool, and a gullible one at that.
Not trying to be insulting, but keeping it real.

I'm not insulted.

I don't expect it to be fully balanced (although I'd like SOME options rather than just a meta team which is how it has been up until now) but the fact everyone accepted wiggs initially like they weren't game breaking has now ruined the game for three months.

If no one accepts something, you're forced to make it better or quit, I think they'd make it better. That's why I blame low standards.

I think you are wrong that just chaze are the issue in that setup. Chaze with others are very easy to deal with. I can use different teams and smash every chaze team without wiggs I come across. The battles against them are fun. but wiggs with kenobi or EP, will KO you before you have time to deal with the threats you need to. Wiggs go together with chaze not because they mesh well or anything, but because wiggs are OP damage.

Chaze are very powerful, but firstly they are new, and not RAMPANT (for months on end), secondly they are not no names and were just released in a movie, thirdly, they have kits, and interesting ones at that, wiggs is just OP damage. Chaze may well be OP but they aren't making the game suck.

They've had their time in the sun and people have abused them for long enough. let them die now.

Well since the counters aren't available to newer players we will just have to learn to enjoy a dumbed down no strategy game. I mean it WOULD be a shame if people couldn't abuse anymore their OP combo after spending so many resources on them. And more, apparently it helps building character.

As someone who has been playing this game for well over a year I can confidently say the meta will change... it always does. New characters will be released (seen the video of blaze and chirrut beating full teams?) and new combinations will be formed to beat wiggs. When General obi wan becomes more accessible that will change things up, same with characters balances and buffs (boba buff made a big swing in the meta on my server) etc etc.

"Tigzie;827539" wrote:


They're already dead.

No, they're not. I explained quite a few times.

"Mr_Eel;827553" wrote:
Wiggs is toast now. I still run Wedge (L), Biggs, Ackbar, Lando, ST Han, but Shoretrooper teams are nearly unbeatable. I played against an all gear 11, 7* Emperor (L), TFP, Vader, Shoretrooper, Sun Fac. I had no chance, barely killed Shoretrooper before I got wiped, and only because I was lucky with Biggs' turn meter. In my opinion, Shoretrooper is so crucial to Empire that he needs to be made F2P. Starting a battle with a taunt up is the new meta. That sucks even worse to play against than Wiggs, unfortunately, so don't get your hopes up.

The problem isn't wiggs it's that your team sucks now, wiggs are still OP. Your team has sucked for a while now actually

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And regardless of whether they are in the exact single top meta team at any point, which as we all know they probably won't be as more zetas come, they are simply OP damage in comparison with all others. That is why OP finds every single team to be a wiggs team. They are overpowered, played out, and should be nerfed.

It's not rocket science that a guy who oneshots attackers and supports at a high speed created such big problems. It's not rocket science that his damage output is simply way over the top

@Tigzie his team does suck, no offence.

First of all, from what you say I can tell I could smash your team and every wiggs team you're talking about, don't tell me what I'm finding hard and what you find easy.

I have only complained about wiggs initially (remember when they broke the game?) and now.

Even though other things have been OP, wiggs was always ridiculous. This is an EA mobile game, it's pretty much their business at this point to make OP stuff. The nature of having a meta at all with dominant team/teams means by definition that things will be OP. I don't know where you get your definition of an OP toon from but it certainly doesn't make a shred of sense.

No toon can guarantee anything, you can't hash anyone together in this game, if we're talking top arena, everyone needs their supporting cast to compete in top arena. Even if you put together the 5 best guys in the game they will get smashed by a top team set up.

It doesn't even make sense to say 'wiggs can be beaten'. They aren't a team. They are two characters, they come in a team.

Barriss Zeta is almost certainly OP with current characters and abilities. That is what this mobile game has done over and over, create OP meta, rinse and repeat.

The reason I say I explained it to you is because you said simply they are dead, which I explained several times they are by no means dead and still in probably the best setup excluding Zeta barriss which I don't know a lot about but i suspect would smash any team right now. If you think wiggs are dead now I suggest you look at team instinct and skunk on swgoh.gg, or other whales.

Unfortunately you haven't read what I wrote so you didn't see me explaining this, hence why I said I explained it to you before.

I guarantee you you will not make a b-line for wiggs when you see the current setups if you are fighting for 1st place or top 5. If not I don't think you are placed to comment on meta battles/wiggs being OP in meta teams. Maybe if you are facing wiggs teams that suck between 20-100 you will, like all the other teams between those spots are bad compared to top setups.

They are simply overpowered dps. To say they are a waste of two slots when they can be protected and unleash huge DPS is either a big exaggeration, or a pretty big misunderstanding of the game.

Now stop being so touchy and chill out

I think you are just upset that wiggs alone doesn't guarantee you a win any more

I would smash your team, I promise you. Not that it's a big deal, I just want you to know you aren't calling on experience here as you seem to think. You certainly don't know more about meta teams than me, as you seem to think wiggs don't have any place. I see Wiggs/chaze has somehow gone over your head then. From what you say I can see you don't know as much as you think you do about the game. If you want to know why I think they should be nerfed, read what I actually said (and the OP's complaint from his standpoint), rather than just being allergic to nerfs. Nerfs aren't a bad thing for game health, just bad for sissies like you who would flip as soon as a character you geared is touched.

And like I said, take a look at team instinct or skunk or other whales if you want to keep insisting they aren't good enough. You will find wedge lead still very much prevalent amongst whales who have everyone geared. It's yours and others wiggs teams that aren't good enough. Please go and do this before you use the words meta, wiggs again

Barriss Zeta is not a hard counter specifically to wiggs. Barriss Zeta is a very powerful ability that counters all damage, not just wiggs. It's just healing. It is as much of a hard counter to wiggs as it is to mob enforcer. Every other toon will have big trouble against these teams.

I haven't faced it much, but I dont think it should be nerfed, even if overpowered. It's a cool ability. Note that I never asked for that and note that I said barriss Zeta will defeat all wiggs setups as far as I can see, is probably the best team there is, yet I want wiggs gone and not barriss. Now read why I want wiggs nerfed before you spout anything else.

I obviously don't care to act big to you but you should know that you don't understand everything/haven't got a clue about the game, and account for that before you spew what you think.

I know you are touchy only because you have them geared, if you were neutral, you would see them for the trash they are.

I used to think Wiggs was OP.

Then we got GK, Chaze, Boba Fett rework, and a bunch of Zetas including permanent DoT Vader and 20% heal on crit Barriss.

Now, many of those I just listed are very tough to obtain (even Boba is not easy to gear up). So if you consider their usefulness and strength *and* the effort/cost to obtain, Wiggs is the by far the best. Meaning every new player should farm Wiggs asap. However, I don't think they are necessarily "OP" anymore, there are stronger things on the horizon.

Okay guys, we need to keep this civil. You've both said your piece; please refrain from personal attacks. If you don't have something constructive to add to the conversation, don't post.

The Chaze teams and some General Kenobi's have started showing up in my arena shard. Soon original poster, Wiggs will be the least of your problems and you will long for the days when they ruled the game.