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8 years ago

The Gear Grind: A Problem of Supply vs. Demand

Disclaimer: This point of this post is to bring attention to the development team of the gear requirements needed by most players, and the unequal distribution of useless gear vs highly coveted gear, and a player's ability or inability to easily acquire the gear we need. Also, solutions to this problem will be discussed so we can enjoy end-game content, not pointless lvl 60 gear grinds.

There have been a lot of posts recently about the inability to acquire the lower level gear that most characters require, but we aren't given enough of as a playerbase. There is a terrible discrepancy between certain gear items (as in, we have 1000s of useless gear items that no one needs, combated with 100s of gear pieces needed that no one has). To me, it seems as if the game has not been adjusted since the initial lvl 60 cap gear-wise, and it's about time the gear problem is fixed so we can worry about all the cuffs, stun guns, carbonatis, and a whole host of new raid gear, instead of, for example, being forced to decide between simming T3 or T5 of the AGI challenge.

The Problem

To get right to the point, why are we still being forced to farm lvl 60 gear that all characters need? We're lvl 85 now, and have had 3 level cap increases since lvl 60, yet we still haven't been given better access to commonly used gear items. For those who are wondering, this primarily includes the following gear:

  • MkIII Holo Projectors (20-piece purple that EVERYONE needs)
  • MkIII Droid Callers (the blue piece in the AGI challenge T3 that mysteriously disappears in T4 and T5)
  • MkIV Keypad (20-piece purple that most need, not to be confused with the MkV Keypad, that no one needs, and we all have 1000s of)
  • MkV Power Cell (the other blue piece in the TAC challenge that mysteriously disappeared, but even though everyone has this now since the other tiers of the TAC challenge are all useless, it's here out of principle that it should also be in the final tier)


These items are all needed by all players for nearly all characters in the game. All characters use one of these, if not more than one, and if not multiple of one. Usually, they require multiple of each. This should not be happening at our current player level. There are so many other gear pieces we need to worry about, that even the thought of needing more of these should be non-existent.

My best guess as to why these pieces are so rare, is because the Devs don't know that we need them so much at high player levels. So that's what this post is for (Hi Devs, friendly reminder that we need more of these gear pieces :smile: ).

But then, we have 1000s of pieces of other random blue and purple gear items that no one needs. Just for giggles, I'll compare the general character needs of a few of these pieces using SWGOH:

MkIII Holo Projector vs MkV Keypad
MkIII Holo Projector: Used 85 times by characters
MkV Keypad: Used 43 times by characters

I currently own 800 MkV Keypad salvage, but only 6 MkIII Holo Projector salvage, and they're both items for lvl 60 characters. I literally have enough MkV Keypad salvage to give one to every single character in the game who needs one, if I had them at the correct level. Why is that a thing? We would need 1700 salvage of Holo Projectors to give them to every toon, so why don't we have that as well? We should at LEAST have the same amount for these 2 purple items.

MkIII Droid Caller vs MkV Binoculars
MkIII Droid Caller: I can't even quantify how many times this piece is used, but it's 55 on it's own, then at least 54 times for the Design Tech raid gear, 63 times for the MkV eyeball thing, and a hell of a lot more.
MkV Binoculars: 38 times...then maybe 50 extra for crafting other pieces.

First off, the MkIII Callers are my most hated and despised gear piece in this game. EVERYONE NEEDS IT. Literally everyone (maybe not literally everyone, but just let it be for dramatic flair). And then there's that other piece. 'What piece is that?' you might say. Well, that's the other blue piece in the AGI challenge that stayed there, because, you know, we just need it so much. That's why we all literally have 1000s of it... :unamused: .

In case it wasn't obvious by now, there is a serious supply and demand problem with the lvl 60 gear in this game. I can understand being gated on items to slow our progression, but seriously? Blocking us with lvl 60 gear? There is no feasible explanation as to why players of a game should be gated on the same gear pieces for the course of 10 months of a game, not to mention the several new gear pieces that were added on top of that every couple months.

Alleviating the Gear Grind

Ok, so now that we know there's an obvious problem, here are some simple and easy solutions to throw the players a bone.

Put the MkIII Holo Projector and MkIV Keypad in Guild Shipments

This one just makes me laugh. Every. Single. Other. Purple piece that costs 20 salvage to create is available in the guild shop for purchase with 1219 guild currency. But the 2 most needed 20-piece purples? Nope. This would be such an easy fix. Please put these items in here as well, and so many people's problems would be solved. This alone would be enough for me, and many other players, to stop complaining about needing 1000s of these. Please. Please. Please.

Make all Challenge Gear Available in T5 of the Daily Challenges

This is equally as easy to do, and there's no logical nor sane reason we should be forced to choose between simming AGI T3 or T5, because we obviously will choose T5 for the syringes, but an equal amount of each are needed. If anything, remove the other 2 useless pieces, and just reward syringes and MkIII callers in T5, because everyone would rejoice and sing kum-ba-yah.

Add lvl 60 Gear to Raids

We've recently seen ship materials added to the prize box in the AAT raid. That means adding something else wouldn't be too difficult. A spectacular addition would be a prize box of maybe 20 random 20-piece purple, blue, and green gear salvage to the raid rewards. This would be RNG of course, but would at least reward players who are obviously high level with gear they also need.

The Point

In conclusion, something needs to be done about these lower level gear items, especially with the new gear requirements and the ever-looming lvl 90 cap increase. I don't think I speak for myself when I say that this game is becoming very stressful as of late (especially as ftp) to continue competing at a high level and focus on gearing up the plethora of new characters that have been released lately. It is overwhelming to feel like there's so much gear we need to acquire, but even a small act of kindness, like the ones I mentioned above, would go a long way to calm many players down and let us focus on the enjoyments of the game, and not just the endless gear grind. 'Tis the season ;) !

Also, please share any other suggestions on how to help out the gear grind. I'm sure there are other low level items that bug people as well.

And no, there isn't any financial benefit to doing anything I've said from the Dev's perspective, but it could go a long way in keeping people from quitting when feeling overwhelmed. Consider it a long term investment. More players playing means more are likely to spend in the future on new content.

Thanks for reading!

TL;DR: Need Moar Gear

EDIT: Here is a video and Reddit post illustrating the unawareness of the devs regarding gear. Just listen to the first 10-13 mins of the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrT92tngmuI&feature=youtu.be

https://m.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/50phtx/we_have_been_told_that_gear_is_kinda_confusing/?ref=search_posts