The zeta crunch...

"WompWompRat;c-1202794" wrote:
A good fleet will ensure a steady supply of zetas and the use case for zetas aren't nearly as taxing as omegas.

In my view, omega bottlenecks are the real killer. Even though we get the recurring omega events, it's very hard to feel like I am able to really make progress because ... I still need a ton of omegas to zeta a toon, in addition to the fact I need omegas to max out so many character abilities. Daily challenges only provide 7 omegas a week, which is basically allowing us to max out 3 abilities roughly every 2 weeks + 1 day (not counting the omega challenges or lucky drops from the ability mats challenges). While this isn't so bad for people with a smaller roster, for people who have huge rosters ... it leaves a lot of untapped opportunity.

For instance even though I zeta'd Finn, I still have a lot of omega mats I need to max out RT, Poe, Rey, RP for my resistance squad. I still have Gar Saxon sitting on the sidelines waiting for his mats .. etc.

+1 right here. I've got about 40 Zeta mats, and about 80k fleet currency if I need to buy Zeta mats but I don't have any Omegas to use them with.

Can't use zetas without omegas.

The point isn't how many zetas you have... whether it's 1 or 100. They aren't difficult to get if you devote the resources to them... but it's time consuming. If you spend your ship currency only on zetas you get one about every two weeks on average.

Sure I have a good amount of characters zeta'd but I started early on it and have spent all my ship currency exclusively on zetas... I like to try new things. That's what makes the game fun for me.

They were great initially to help address the power creep by giving older characters that became somewhat obsolete new abilities that made them viable again. Now every new character "needs" a zeta... or two.. or now three in Luke's case.

It's literally impossible to stay even remotely close to keeping up with the curve that is being created. Sure you can save them up... but for what and until when? What if you went "all in" on the Ewoks and then they release Luke... well that sucks... or you go "all in" on Luke and soon enough some new character is released that is bigger and better and nullifies all your efforts.

I think that ideally any fully zeta'd team (empire, sith, Jedi, resistance, FO, Ewoks, etc...) should be able to compete with any other in a rock, paper, scissors kind of way... but currently it doesn't work like that. They just release something new that is stronger than anything else and shifts the balance dramatically. Arena currently is probably more varied then it has been in a while but it still boils down to a very limited number of viable teams/ characters is you want to be competitive.

I don't really regret any of the zetas I've put on characters. Some are clearly far superior to others but regardless it's fun to try them out and experiment with them.

That being said... being able to remove them for a significant fee or having them accessible in other ways wouldn't be such a bad thing.

This game is meant to have variety. The more options you have for everyone means people can actually take different routes. You have a ton of zetas and a top player amd you're over here complaining when most people probably only have a couple zetas or none. Don't whine about not being able to keep up and not be able to have everything as it comes out. If everyone got the same kitten constantly this game would suck

"Smapty;c-1201712" wrote:

"Winstar;c-1201671" wrote:
17 crafted zetas?!? Was that a typo?

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That is my only thought and feedback.

Yes I've got Yoda (2), Thrawn (2), Nihilus (2), Tarkin, Dooku, Veers, Vader, Savage, Asajj, Finn, Krennic, Sid, DT... I think that's it...

Plus one ready to go for whoever... *cough* (Luke)

I don't really mean to complain...

But man I wish I could "buy back" some of those ;)

I think that would be kind of overpowered unless the return was less than 20 zetas

I find it seriously difficult to comprehend that you have activated 17 zeta abilities, yet somehow think you need a way to earn more zeta materials.
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Ships cause my game to crash 99% of the time. As a result, I have very few zetas. Just placed my 3rd one yesterday, with zero banked. So that's exactly 60 I've gotten... ever. I personally don't think they're too hard to get. I just HATE that ships is the way to get them.

"EventineElessedil;c-1203459" wrote:
I find it seriously difficult to comprehend that you have activated 17 zeta abilities, yet somehow think you need a way to earn more zeta materials.
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Ditto. And yet, with my relatively paltry 5 zetas and terrible luck on the challenge.... Still agree with him. (I've literally gone two whole, non-consecutive, months w/o getting a single zeta from the challenge. I too buy most of mine.

This is a resource management game... That is pretty much the all of it.

How many Zeta's you got and spent then complaining about new toons needing Zetas is EXACTLY the point and issue in a game about resource management. If you spend every credit heist penny to level toons you won't be able to use in 2 years or will use once for fun, you are wasting resources and will not have the credits when you do need them (like now). Exact same principle with Zetas.

I had literally 115 zeta mats last week. I had nothing I needed to spend them on. I spent them on my first dark side/Empire arena squad. They are doing slightly better than the squad I already had on Defense but not 2 characters and 2 zeta farms.

I was/am disappointed, the resources that I put in did not pay out to the level I was expected. I could have farmed r2 instead and maybe had a slightly better team and been more prepared for the Journey.

At the end of the day it was my resource management mistake that put me in this position. I should have known better etc. Though like you (I would guess), I was more eager to try something new.

Trying something new isn't a bad thing, its just not the BEST min/max thing to do in this game. Just like farming and using toons you "like" isn't the optimum thing to do either.

You can't have it both ways in this game. If you want the uber toon immediately you have to wait, plan and ensure you manage your resources properly.

Sounds like you pissed away zetas imo.

"EventineElessedil;c-1203459" wrote:
I find it seriously difficult to comprehend that you have activated 17 zeta abilities, yet somehow think you need a way to earn more zeta materials.
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Yeah I dunno...working on my 4th right now...