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Rath_Tarr0
4 years ago

Too much "player engagement" is a bad thing

GAC division rebalancing was long overdue but it came with additional time requirements for many players.

Then Galactic Conquest was added, requiring more time from players and being practically mandatory since it is the sole way of acquiring key characters & ships. Then it was buffed requiring even more time and draining the fun out of it.

Now Territory Wars is getting revamped. Again long overdue but again it comes with additional time requirements and is practically mandatory at the top end because it is the only way to acquire r9 mats.

Any one of these would not be a big deal. But add them together and you have turned a fun game into a laborious grindfest and increased player dis-engagement. I've seen more in the last few weeks than at any other time in the last 3 years and I have even contemplated it myself. For now I settled for ignoring the red crate in Grindquest but I don't know how long that can last.
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  • p4k031's avatar
    p4k031
    4 years ago
    "SparkyBurns;c-2304192" wrote:
    CG how dare you give players options to actually play your game?!

    Half the time people whine about "look at me spin the characters because there's nothing to do!" Then the other half of the time they whine and moan because they can't get max rewards in conquest with little to no effort anymore


    Feel free to enjoy repeating the same battles over and over again every day for hours on end, and to spend a large part of your time and crystals on it, but get used to the fact that this does not correspond at all to the definition of "fun content" for the vast majority of players.

    "mickyluv;c-2303475" wrote:
    We asked for a library. CG gave us a bookshelf with 3 paperbacks on it and expect us to read them 50 times.

    It seems that some people here are quite willing to read the same book 50 times if you throw a trinket at them.
  • LordDirt's avatar
    LordDirt
    New Traveler
    4 years ago
    "SparkyBurns;c-2304192" wrote:
    CG how dare you give players options to actually play your game?!

    Half the time people whine about "look at me spin the characters because there's nothing to do!" Then the other half of the time they whine and moan because they can't get max rewards in conquest with little to no effort anymore


    Having us spend crystals to mindlessly do the same battles over and over again is not content.
  • obijuanpollo's avatar
    obijuanpollo
    4 years ago
    "Rath_Tarr;d-249965" wrote:
    GAC division rebalancing was long overdue but it came with additional time requirements for many players.

    Then Galactic Conquest was added, requiring more time from players and being practically mandatory since it is the sole way of acquiring key characters & ships. Then it was buffed requiring even more time and draining the fun out of it.

    Now Territory Wars is getting revamped. Again long overdue but again it comes with additional time requirements and is practically mandatory at the top end because it is the only way to acquire r9 mats.

    Any one of these would not be a big deal. But add them together and you have turned a fun game into a laborious grindfest and increased player dis-engagement. I've seen more in the last few weeks than at any other time in the last 3 years and I have even contemplated it myself. For now I settled for ignoring the red crate in Grindquest but I don't know how long that can last.


    Was feeling the exact same way, especially this past weekend doing GAC, TW, Conquest, both arenas and a cpit, just way too much time spent on this game and it’s not enjoyable… the last 3-4 updates have almost been nails in the coffin

  • JonnySiniwali's avatar
    JonnySiniwali
    4 years ago
    "Epidem;c-2304195" wrote:
    "SparkyBurns;c-2304192" wrote:
    CG how dare you give players options to actually play your game?!

    Half the time people whine about "look at me spin the characters because there's nothing to do!" Then the other half of the time they whine and moan because they can't get max rewards in conquest with little to no effort anymore


    Feel free to enjoy repeating the same battles over and over again every day for hours on end, and to spend a large part of your time and crystals on it, but get used to the fact that this does not correspond at all to the definition of "fun content" for the vast majority of players.

    "mickyluv;c-2303475" wrote:
    We asked for a library. CG gave us a bookshelf with 3 paperbacks on it and expect us to read them 50 times.

    It seems that some people here are quite willing to read the same book 50 times if you throw a trinket at them.


    Yeah, because I am not going to miss powerful characters while waiting for them to fix it. They know how mad people are. It costs me 150 crystals a day over 10ish days to get a character as powerful as maul/cat/rc and that is a bargain compared to the cost of a marquee or the time it takes to pull a raid character, or wat. You better believe I will spend the time on it. Do I like it? No. Is it fun? Absolutely not. But what will be less fun is sitting around waiting an indefinite amount of time to get them after they become completely unavailable. You can't form a team with your principled stand. *Shrug* good luck though.
  • Mephisto_style's avatar
    Mephisto_style
    4 years ago
    "mickyluv;c-2303475" wrote:
    "capsular;c-2303461" wrote:
    “content.”


    We asked for a library. CG gave us a bookshelf with 3 paperbacks on it and expect us to read them 50 times.


    Ok, that's about the funniest thing I've read on the forums.

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