I feel absolutely terrible for the guild we are facing. We are about to complete all territories and they cant even break through our fist row :( Unless they are trying to snake a tie or something which I highly doubt based on their defence.... Can't believe how broken this is

That's why TWs are absolute poopoo and make no sense. You either leave half of your guild out of rewards (and even the weakest ones) or get humiliated by someone else doing this. It's like the prisoner's dilemma: you'll get a fair battle only with another guild which participates with all its members, but you cannot know that before the battle begins. Sometimes I wonder if they have half-trained baboons inventing this sort of things.

"RacerDejak;c-1450477" wrote:@Nadebotfm , i totally feel u.. plz look out our current TW:https://image.ibb.co/cgCNgH/20180206_225854.jpgWe are unbeaten, 10 wins in a row (with this also). I should be grateful bcause we never taste defeat. They don't make dent in our frontline. We don't even put our strong defence in the front. Oh also we are mopping clear in our 10 victories.This is so lame.. i feel bad for our enemies :frowning: that is exactly how ours ended. Our last 4 no have been that way.

The silly part is the fix would be relatively simple - just make sure that opposing guilds (apart from all the other algorithms) are within "X" number of active players of each other. That way, you don't end up with disproportionately strong guilds with fewer players facing a large number of under-powered players. It seems odd that they didn't take that into account - especially when they made such a big deal about G12 was so much stronger than any other gear level. Something in this game wasn't sufficiently tested before being rolled out??? Color me shocked................or not.

"Nadebotfm;c-1451276" wrote:"DarkstarSunrise;c-1451272" wrote:"Nikoms565;c-1451178" wrote:The silly part is the fix would be relatively simple - just make sure that opposing guilds (apart from all the other algorithms) are within "X" number of active players of each other. It's not the number of players, or even raw GP, that is an accurate metric; it need to account for things like number of zeta'd toons, gear 12 toons, etc. Few players with better rosters can field more/better teams than more players with weaker rosters.totally agree about the number of G12 players and zetas. wonder how hard that would be though to create an algorithmWould be very hard i figure.. remember the time they need to fix daily ticket counter? U just have one job.. one job :dizzy:

Maybe they’re in a different time zone and haven’t really attacked yet.

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Creepioo
New Spectator
7 years ago
"Nadebotfm;c-1451155" wrote:
"Creepioo;c-1451154" wrote:
We keep loosing but or opposing guild is usually close to 10mil gp less then us

do they have more people register than you?

Don't think you can tell that. Maybe my guild just isn't active enough idk or just bad at fighting lol
MattSumner
7 years ago
"Creepioo;c-1451193" wrote:
"Nadebotfm;c-1451155" wrote:
"Creepioo;c-1451154" wrote:
We keep loosing but or opposing guild is usually close to 10mil gp less then us

do they have more people register than you?

Don't think you can tell that. Maybe my guild just isn't active enough idk or just bad at fighting lol

yea you can. You go by how many people your guild had registered divided by 2. if the amount of defence teams allowed is less or more than that you get a gauge on how many the other guild has
soCalMikestang
7 years ago
"Nikoms565;c-1451178" wrote:
The silly part is the fix would be relatively simple - just make sure that opposing guilds (apart from all the other algorithms) are within "X" number of active players of each other.

It's not the number of players, or even raw GP, that is an accurate metric; it need to account for things like number of zeta'd toons, gear 12 toons, etc. Few players with better rosters can field more/better teams than more players with weaker rosters.
MattSumner
7 years ago
"DarkstarSunrise;c-1451272" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1451178" wrote:
The silly part is the fix would be relatively simple - just make sure that opposing guilds (apart from all the other algorithms) are within "X" number of active players of each other.

It's not the number of players, or even raw GP, that is an accurate metric; it need to account for things like number of zeta'd toons, gear 12 toons, etc. Few players with better rosters can field more/better teams than more players with weaker rosters.

totally agree about the number of G12 players and zetas. wonder how hard that would be though to create an algorithm
keaialubao
7 years ago
"DarkstarSunrise;c-1451272" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1451178" wrote:
The silly part is the fix would be relatively simple - just make sure that opposing guilds (apart from all the other algorithms) are within "X" number of active players of each other.

It's not the number of players, or even raw GP, that is an accurate metric; it need to account for things like number of zeta'd toons, gear 12 toons, etc. Few players with better rosters can field more/better teams than more players with weaker rosters.

I wholely support this. The fact is gp was originally designed for TB, it's never meant to be a metric of combat prowess. In fact I'd argue the long term arena rank averages of a guild probably correlate a lot better with TW results. The longer you stay at top of arena, the more resources you have to build raid teams, pilots, fleet, alternative arena teams...Etc.

As a guild we have beaten those with higher gp in tw, but we have never defeated any guild with a lower average arena rank.
Mosus112
7 years ago
We are a guild of 90-100M GP and maybe one or two times had these problems. For sure I only know one time against, but we are participating with at least 45 everytime. But still...the last TW a guild with 3M more active GP just defeated the half of our squads, what seems to be very ckear to me. So it doesn't need to be completely broken...but yes GP comparison based on the registered members would work better
BrtStlnd
7 years ago
I’m an officer in a 128m gp guild. Since we crossed the 120m barrier we’ve had REALLY close, well-matched opponents. So I can say that from our experience, TW matching is working ok.
phatphil3
7 years ago
The best way to fix this is just to place guilds in their own bracket regardless of active players. Either have everyone participate or you're at a disadvantage against a guild who is just as "powerful" as you are.
PremierVenoth
7 years ago
We've had two matched teams - that is - it was close and it just came down to the end. We had three ties - it doesn't matter if that was matched or not - it's hard to say when you just demolish one another with ease.

The rest have all been weighted one way or the other. Either we've steamrolled poor guilds or gotten demolished ourselves.

Maybe that's the fun of being in that quasi middle level of guilds, IDK.
Nikoms565
7 years ago
"DarkstarSunrise;c-1451272" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1451178" wrote:
The silly part is the fix would be relatively simple - just make sure that opposing guilds (apart from all the other algorithms) are within "X" number of active players of each other.

It's not the number of players, or even raw GP, that is an accurate metric; it need to account for things like number of zeta'd toons, gear 12 toons, etc. Few players with better rosters can field more/better teams than more players with weaker rosters.

That could already be being taken into account. First off, zetas and gear affect GP. Secondly, we have no idea what the metrics are - but it does seem fairly clear that total number of participants is NOT being accounted for accurately.