TW matchmaking [MERGE]

Average arena rank would be a good measure to use as well.

They will probably alternate wars. And that was my point exactly. I think we were matched exactly the same for both wars. They were extremely tough on defense and cut through us like butter

Every zone we opened had more and more 75k plus defense squads with a sprinkle of 7* nightsisters talzin and unmasked ren. Cls also, just for good measure lol

There's a lot of possible error in looking up your opponent on the Guild search or swgoh.gg.
First, if not everyone's registered at swgoh.gg, then there will be a lot of GP missing. Second, you have no idea who signed up to be in the TW (big unknown there). And finally, what is the total GP from heroes <6k that can't participate? I'm not sure if the matchmaking takes this GP into account or not; over 50 people that portion of unused GP could add to a lot.

"Julmay;c-1374556" wrote:
If you don't know the actual GP of the opposing guild, how can you say one way or the other how out classed you are? To argue that the people complaining about being over powered is an argument built on ignorance. You don't know if was a 50 on 50 fight or a 40 on 40. Some people could have legimate complaints about the issues with matchmaking. Not all complaints are from understaffed guilds.

you can get a pretty solid impression by the number of defense squads. We were facing a Guild with 13 mill gp advantage. Since we both could field 24 defensive squads you can assume they had around 48 ppl registered

"501stsquad;c-1374546" wrote:
That's just happened to my guild. We're about 75M gp with 100% participation matched up against a 100M gp guild. The battle was pretty close, but in the end, even with less participation the amount of g12, gk, zaris, chase in the other guild created a great advantage against us.
I think not only the gp should be considered for match making but also the number of participants.

I agree but I think matchmaker needs to go more nuanced basing it off of your combat effective gp taken only from g9-12 toons. TB encouraged/forced us to bloat our GP by 7* and leveling trash toons to get more stars. (I added about 400k to my GP by just paying attention to trash for once but my combat effective gp would be way less than it is if you only counted my g9+ toons). And now TW is taking that GP as a fair estimate of your combat effective gp. Which it totally isn't.

You can't outright require bloating your GP with trash to get maximum reward and then have a new mode assume that GP reflects only combat ready toons. It's already proven to be matching guilds up against guilds that vastly outclass them in effective combat power even if their GP says that on paper they should be very closely matched.

As far as I can tell the only guilds the current matchmaking will get regular close matches are the ones that are more hard core or full of whales. The rest will just gamble that this time they won't get RNGed into a match they lost before a single squad was deployed.

"kalidor;c-1374654" wrote:
There's a lot of possible error in looking up your opponent on the Guild search or swgoh.gg.
First, if not everyone's registered at swgoh.gg, then there will be a lot of GP missing. Second, you have no idea who signed up to be in the TW (big unknown there). And finally, what is the total GP from heroes <6k that can't participate? I'm not sure if the matchmaking takes this GP into account or not; over 50 people that portion of unused GP could add to a lot.

this last TW we were bracketed in the 25-29 million slot and based on total gp for each person we could only get there if it counted <6k toons too. In the first TW we also bumped up our award bracket by leveling up all our trash toons to level 50. I'm fairly certain matchmaking therefore counts trash toons that can't even be used in TW when it's figuring out who to match you against.

This means doing well in TB (which requires boosting trash toons for extra GP) actively hurts you in TW matchmaking by considering toons that aren't even eligible for use. Matchmaking needs to be redone to only count the GP of g9+ toons (that is only the toons you've clearly put resources into making combat effective; you might boost trash to g8 for TB deployment points but barring whale status probably don't boost trash to g9+).

Maybe all those folks who artificially inflated their GP by only raising characters to Level 53 and Gear 6 and feeling the effects now.

How is the match making done for tw?? Is it a bracket system for guilds between a certain power?? Like 80-89.99 gp u could have a guild at 80.15 gp against a 89.00gp??

I think your "?" Button is sticking. The GP of those who joined the event are matched as close as possible to the GP of another guild's group who joined the event. As for a numberical range, I doubt they tell us that. They aren't exactly known for open communication. (I.e. See various "please tel us" threads)