TW tie equals second place for both teams?

A tie breaker is another solution.

It needs sorting out.

I think both teams "win" regardless....we paid nothing additional to participate in this content but time and we are going to get "free" prizes. This is a steal win or lose for participants.

Definitely needs a tie breaker. You could do the leftover GP like suggested above, or maybe give first place to whoever wiped out the map first. Idk, either way is better than both getting second place rewards.

One option our guild discussed (we tied also) was to perhaps increase the number of defensive deployments per territory. Another option that was discussed is give 1 point for a successful defensive hold.

Agreed giving banners for defensive holds “should” be able to break the tie.

Yep, asked this question awhile back.... chances are with AI playing defense, evenly matched guilds will most likely end up in a tie. We destroyed our competitor in less than a few hours, while the only did damage in one section on us.... yet they have 20+ hours to chip away at ours..... which will most likely end in a tie. That needs to be addressed..... I understand times zones and all and the need for 24 hours.... but......

No way they can make both sides 1st place as it's far too easy to coordinate between guilds and both put out weak defensive team so both teams can clear the map to force a tie and get 1st place prices. Ties need to result in 2nd place for both teams to keep things honest.

My guild also tied in our TW (GP just under 110M). Both guilds put out the max number of teams on defense and we both had a large number of Zarriss meta teams, Nightsisters, Krennic lead teams that are notoriously difficult to beat. Their middle, back territory scare the heck out of us when we opened it up and we decided to go around it to try and take more territories then them. It didn't matter. We cleared the entire map with several players still having some meta teams left and I suspect they did as well.

This is only going to get worse. As characters are added, the number of teams we can attack with will grow while the number of teams we can defend with is going to remain the same. The idea of defensive stands earning banner points would address the issue of ties, but it wouldn't fix the fact that all of the fun strategy of team placement means nothing when we can beat all of them. The gameplay would remain shallow when it could be fantastic.

They need to increase the number of teams that we can defend with in each territory (that will in return leave each guild with less teams to attack with). Perhaps a scaling system where at GP 100M 5 more are added to the defensive team cap for each territory and at 115M or 120M 5 more are.

As it is, all the wonderful strategy that was put into defending and attacking for both us and Legion 501st went to waste. It didn't matter at all. I suspect a lot of guilds at 100M+ are going to have similar results as us. If they don't change it, I see a lot of hard fought wars with a tie and 2nd place rewards in our future.

I think minor points for defensive wins is a really good solution to be honest.

Our guild beat the opposing guild by 10 points -- why... because they failed to set a single defense team in the setup phase.

Agreed for smaller guilds 70Mil GP or lower their is strategy. For 100mil+ its will almost always be a Tie. Especially if a Tie means both guilds get 1st place rewards.

What worse is what seem to have happen in my Guilds TW. Both sides cleared, but the Guild that finished first has 10more points. SO I guess TW starts at 2am for most of your guild, and 6pm for your target guild... your basically screwed.

"Ava_Kdizzle;c-1369432" wrote:

"RWTD_Burn;c-1369414" wrote:
As it is, all the wonderful strategy that was put into defending and attacking for both us and Legion 501st went to waste. It didn't matter at all. I suspect a lot of guilds at 100M+ are going to have similar results as us. If they don't change it, I see a lot of hard fought wars with a tie and 2nd place rewards in our future.

Well said and couldn't agree more. While the easy answer seems to be whichever side clears the map first, given time zone differences, that is unfair too. My 116 US-based guild cleared our fight first, but we were fighting a 116 spain-based guild that caught up in the morning their time. Should we get better rewards due to the time zone? I don't think so.

It seems to me that the best possible tiebreaker is number of attacks. That would reward guilds that strategize and are able to get the right balance of offense and defense without needing to zerg down a team with 10 different attacks, which can be done pretty easily.

Problem with both this method of a tie breaker and the defensive stands worth banner points is that the map itself still doesn't have any value. It might as well be one big territory for troops and one for ships for the teams that tied as there ended up being no value in creating a stronghold to block each other from taking a territory. Whether we put all of our best defensive teams in front, in back, or all on one territory the end result will be the same with all territories conquered for both teams. That's a lot of fun removed from the game mode that the developers spent time trying to create.